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Old 12 May 2002, 14:25 (Ref:283399)   #101
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
F1 hasn't been racing since TGF 'won' the 1994 title.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:25 (Ref:283401)   #102
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I think that is the most disgusting thing Ive ever seen in Formula One - since I started watching it anyway.

The Ferrari team have lost many fans today - including me for that matter.

Even though Im not a Barrichelo fan - that was simply disgusting - it was not racing nor was it a team decision.

Ferrari may win the titles this year but they would need to hire people to celebrate their victory with them - They've lost a lot of fans today.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:25 (Ref:283403)   #103
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1) Chat room everyone to discuss this in real time

2) If I was Clerk of the Course / Race Director / Steward I would have DSQ'd Schumey on the spot for bringing the sport into disripute

3) If MS didn't agree with it (as he said - but I agree that it wasn't his idea) than he could have just fallen in behind him. It doesn't take a lot
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:26 (Ref:283404)   #104
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both drivers obeyed Ferrari orders.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:26 (Ref:283405)   #105
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Are there any Ferrari fans left in the world. This is a black day for them. There is absolutely no reason for this action and there should be some fine for it. I thought this was against their sporting rules. The best thing about it is that RB hammered the brakes at the end to let everyone know exactly how it was. I saw the time between them falling and thought oh they want a formation finish... yeah right
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:27 (Ref:283408)   #106
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F1 "racing" has been fixed for a while, though, hasn't it.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:29 (Ref:283410)   #107
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Well TGF certainly doesn't.

TGF lost all honour in 1994.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:29 (Ref:283411)   #108
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Just adding my disgust at the farce that happened today.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:29 (Ref:283412)   #109
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This is not a sport anymore.We should quit watching because it's just Michael and his ness
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:29 (Ref:283413)   #110
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Number Juan has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
they did a quick interview with Ross Braun afterwards - he was looking a little flustered and he said

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"We [FIrrAri] controlled the race from start to finish - how can you call that racing?"
i totally agree.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:33 (Ref:283420)   #111
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why does rubens bother??????
qualify P1, lead the race, and then cop this sh**
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:33 (Ref:283421)   #112
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yup today is a black day for us!! i don't agree with ferrari's team order. but M.Schumi is still my favortie driver (as of now)
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:33 (Ref:283422)   #113
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so it is official...everybody hates Ferrari and Schumacher.

...so do i.
how is someone going to be able to win against the points tally of schumacher and rubens!?
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:33 (Ref:283423)   #114
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I agree with you all but................. didn't the FIA issue a directive "banning team orders" ?????
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:34 (Ref:283425)   #115
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Ross Brawn

Asked whether the call was against the spirit of competition, Brawn replied: "You say that but we had told the drivers not to race each other.

"We told Michael not to push and Rubens not to push so we were not racing."


- this is the kind of attitude that has destroyed Grand Prix

he may be a genius when it comes to strategy, but a sad person when it comes down to it really !!



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Old 12 May 2002, 14:34 (Ref:283426)   #116
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Yes as a MS fan, and EX Ferrari fan, i feel he should've braked, and for the sake of his own honour, allowed RB to win. Hell, it was Rubens weekend.

This is bad.

And now a site like this that already calls MS "TGF" and all sorts of other names, will never-ever stop raving.

There's alot of damage been done today, and i expect we'll all hear alot more about it. Disgraceful.

The first problem is already above.

"You are a disgrace to the sport"
"TGF, for this, you will NEVER be forgiven."
"i wonder how all the tgf fans on this forum will defend this?"

And here's a real cracker from someone who's really pi##ed and is shooting from the hip...

"They won't defend it, they'll just insult us, as usual, because they have nothing else to say!."

And THAT unfortunately is going to really split this forum up now.

And why? Because it CAN'T be defended.

It's ****.

EX Ferrari fan.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:35 (Ref:283428)   #117
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Brawn is king of all a-holes.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:36 (Ref:283430)   #118
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Eddie Irvine discovered 'brake problems' in the Ferrari.

Won't it be fun to hear what Eddie has to say about this?
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:38 (Ref:283434)   #119
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If they haven't, they might have to now. There's gonna be massive negative press for F1 from today's race.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:40 (Ref:283438)   #120
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"I am not very pleased about it either but we have to look what are the team's ambitions. They are out to win the championship. I have to thank Rubens. He has been outstanding all weekend. I don't take a lot of joy from this victory."

How did the team gain anything. Still 16 points either way in the Constructers,...
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:40 (Ref:283439)   #121
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"I can't believe Ferrari are so stupid not to predict the PR disaster this instantly turned into."

Hell, after such a GREAT weekend for Ferrari, BOTH cars, they do this...sad day.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:40 (Ref:283440)   #122
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I'm a Ferrari and Michael fan and I am appalled by what has happenned, it is a disgrace to the sport and the reaction of the fans should be significant. Bernie will not be happy about that at all.

And Ferrari's sponsors will have their name dragged through the mud, they shalt not be happy.

As for Michael, I believe that he wasn't happy with the decision but I also believe that he shouldn't have overtaken Rubens.

Ross Brawn has also let himself down with that post race interview, he came across as very arrogant and I think possibly made the situation worse.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:41 (Ref:283443)   #123
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Nuclear1080, I know you're upset, but mind your words please... there are people who can read portuguese.
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Old 12 May 2002, 14:41 (Ref:283444)   #124
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Let's look at it this way:

TGF did NOT have to overtake Rubens. That would have been the honourable thing to do, NOT OVERTAKE.

It just proves TGF has NO honour. At all.
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Montoya looked positively petrified to share a podium with the Ferrari boys.
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