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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:43 (Ref:3267529)   #1226
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the toyota is actually abit quicker in fast corners but it losses so much in straight and traction zones,also i don't think they have an advantage with their hybrid drive over the audi anymore
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:45 (Ref:3267530)   #1227
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#3 Audi is about 3 min behind the #7 Toyota for 3rd place.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:45 (Ref:3267531)   #1228
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is the #28 still running?

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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:46 (Ref:3267532)   #1229
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My advanced age??? (jimclark pointing with and shaking cane...) You keep answering questions that aren't asked....we're talking identifying the cars by their headlights or taillights...not just being aware that there is a car there. Oi-vay...
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:48 (Ref:3267533)   #1230
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the toyota is actually abit quicker in fast corners but it losses so much in straight and traction zones,also i don't think they have an advantage with their hybrid drive over the audi anymore
What in bloody 'ell is a "traction zone"???
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:49 (Ref:3267535)   #1231
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JMW MOTORSPORT is the true Garage56 entry this year. According to Live Timing, their Ferrari has kept going without a driver for most of the race so far!

PS: Speaking of 'traction zones', maybe its not the best place/time to ask, but... Why is it that Toyota seemed to drive away from R18 quattros out of slow corners when the track was at its wettest?
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What in bloody 'ell is a "traction zone"???
Well everyone was complaining it was getting cold in the wind, so maybe sections without ice?

Guessing acceleration zone was the phrase they were looking for instead.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:54 (Ref:3267539)   #1233
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If you've caught me on other boards discussing the face of racing changing aND HOW PEOPLE CRY ABOUT HOW SAFE IT NEEDS TO BE....THIS IS THE EXPERIMENT WITH MY CONTENTION THAT WE WILL END UP WITH RADIO CONTROLLED RACECARS (DRONES IF YOU WILL) on circuits where there are no spectators so none can be injured...we'll all be watching online. Won't that be fun???!!! I'm glad I'm as old as I am and haven't become brainwashed and have seen and participated in the real thing.
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JMW MOTORSPORT is the true Garage56 entry this year. According to Live Timing, their Ferrari has kept going without a driver for most of the race so far!

PS: Speaking of 'traction zones', maybe its not the best place/time to ask, but... Why is it that Toyota seemed to drive away from R18 quattros out of slow corners when the track was at its wettest?
Corners are too slow for the Audi's to use the quattro until they get up to speed, or did they abandon the minimum speed for AWD hybrid systems?
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:55 (Ref:3267541)   #1235
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Because Toyota's hybrid boost is available immediately and Audi has to wait until it hits 120 km/h?
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:56 (Ref:3267542)   #1236
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What in bloody 'ell is a "traction zone"???
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:58 (Ref:3267544)   #1237
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PEOPLE CRY ABOUT HOW SAFE IT NEEDS TO BE....THIS IS THE EXPERIMENT WITH MY CONTENTION THAT WE WILL END UP WITH RADIO CONTROLLED RACECARS (DRONES IF YOU WILL) on circuits where there are no spectators so none can be injured...we'll all be watching online. Won't that be fun???!!!
Poor taste, considering the unfortunate incident that occurred this afternoon.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 22:59 (Ref:3267545)   #1238
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JMW MOTORSPORT is the true Garage56 entry this year. According to Live Timing, their Ferrari has kept going without a driver for most of the race so far!

PS: Speaking of 'traction zones', maybe its not the best place/time to ask, but... Why is it that Toyota seemed to drive away from R18 quattros out of slow corners when the track was at its wettest?
Also the Toyota traction control is more effective than the Audis.

Sarrazin unlapped himself when Kristensen pitted!
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Poor taste, considering the unfortunate incident that occurred this afternoon.
Completely agree. Really, really poor taste.
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#7 in - Kaz handing over to Lapierre

#8 in - Sarazin over to Davidson
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If you've caught me on other boards discussing the face of racing changing aND HOW PEOPLE CRY ABOUT HOW SAFE IT NEEDS TO BE....THIS IS THE EXPERIMENT WITH MY CONTENTION THAT WE WILL END UP WITH RADIO CONTROLLED RACECARS (DRONES IF YOU WILL) on circuits where there are no spectators so none can be injured...we'll all be watching online. Won't that be fun???!!! I'm glad I'm as old as I am and haven't become brainwashed and have seen and participated in the real thing.
Dude, what are you doing.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 23:21 (Ref:3267554)   #1243
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Because Toyota's hybrid boost is available immediately and Audi has to wait until it hits 120 km/h?
Yes. But why the wet, traction limited, track sways the balance in favour of a fully RWD car?
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Also the Toyota traction control is more effective than the Audis.
Good point!
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Does Toyota's hybrid system allow for a better TC system by using the electric motors? Next year the AWD limit is dismissed though right?
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Does Toyota's hybrid system allow for a better TC system by using the electric motors? Next year the AWD limit is dismissed though right?
Yeah, just heard Toyota on RLM say they are considering 4wd for next year
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YEAH - no more jumping back and forth on Speed/Speed.com - actual coverage until the end!

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Old 22 Jun 2013, 23:33 (Ref:3267560)   #1247
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Malucelli is doing a great stint in the AF Corse #51 consistently on the pace of the leading GTE PRO cars, shame hes a lap behind.
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YEA - no more jumping back and forth on Speed/Speed.com - actual coverage until the end!
No Nationwide or truck races left to mess with the race? Maybe they can find some old happy hour coverage of Cup cars to air.
Although it is nice to get a little Speed channel is when it's streaming. Usually make it 15-20 min before I put RLM back on but the pictures are much better quality than anything on justintv.
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Jim Clark, sad to see you've lost your mind in your old age, really really poor choice of words.
I'm so ashamed...


However...Having sat in the seat, knowing full well what could happen, I do wonder where the skin of folks is going. Words only have the power you give them.
Having raced, and enjoyed, r/c cars; they never gave the feeling of driving the real thing. Simonsen was doing just what he wished to do...full well knowing the possibilities. When it becomes as antiseptic as many want (yourself included?) it will not be sport any longer...just virtual garbaaage...

Lost my mind? I think not...again give your words the power you wish. They ain't workin' on me.

Maybe tennis or Golf is more your speed...
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