T Break thread 2023

[Tel 911S]

Just heard the sound of a big radial engine going overhead at about 1500 ft .
Had to look it up on radar .
It was a North American T6 .Apparently used as training aircraft from WW11 on wards .
Never seen one of them before , and had not heard of any in this country .

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Just heard the sound of a big radial engine going overhead at about 1500 ft .
Had to look it up on radar .
It was a North American T6 .Apparently used as training aircraft from WW11 on wards .
Never seen one of them before , and had not heard of any in this country .

I am not sure of the numbers but I think there is a few in the U.K., usually known as the Harvard. Rolls-Royce has one based at East Mids Airport, which I see fairly often; I think that the Navy Wings charity (formerly the Royal Navy Historic Flight) has one, and Gary Numan (pop “star”) used to have one, and might still do, and in the 80s and 90s used to display on the air show circuit with 2 or 3 others, one of which was painted to look like a Japanese Zero fighter from WW2 on account of the fact that were used to represent such aircraft in the several WW2 films.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by andy97

I am not sure of the numbers but I think there is a few in the U.K., usually known as the Harvard. Rolls-Royce has one based at East Mids Airport, which I see fairly often; I think that the Navy Wings charity (formerly the Royal Navy Historic Flight) has one, and Gary Numan (pop “star”) used to have one, and might still do, and in the 80s and 90s used to display on the air show circuit with 2 or 3 others, one of which was painted to look like a Japanese Zero fighter from WW2 on account of the fact that were used to represent such aircraft in the several WW2 films.

There are a few Harvard's around over here too.

The son of a near neighbour flies down here from time to time to waggle his wings over his parents house. He usually comes in his own 'plane but occasionally in Harvard. He treats me to a few low-level aerobatics in his own 'plane but doesn't loiter over the village too long in the Harvard, presumably because it is a bit noisy!

A few weeks ago I witnessed a Harvard take-off from Le Touquet Aerodrome & do a couple of loops over the beach before flying off. It could be the same one that features in some arty photographs I've seen on sale in Le Touquet so might well be based there.

[Gerard C]

Flying low-level is said "radada" in good french pilot language… And a crash is said "to give a kiss to the planet"!

[rbs]

The CAA list 27 Harvard's and 10 T6 Texan's registered in the UK.

The ex Gary Numan Harvard id now part of the Goodwood fleet.

[rbs]

The Ex Gary Numan Harvard is below for those that are interested in aircraft.

[Gerard C]

Nice pic, thanks Robert!

[E.B]

Originally Posted by rbs

The Ex Gary Numan Harvard is below for those that are interested in aircraft.
Attachment 78243

Interesting history that has... Gary sold it to Goodwood

https://www.t6harvard.com/uk-harvards/g-azsc/


or a Gary Numan featured short Harvard doco.
https://youtu.be/wSwYoKwuNz4

or if you have a bit more time to spare, Gary Numan The Radial Pair (Full Video)
Gary Numan/Norman Lees, The Radial Pair Full Video, Blackpool Airports Last Airshow 1992
https://youtu.be/-VTRVeDCXns

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by E.B

Interesting history that has... Gary sold it to Goodwood

https://www.t6harvard.com/uk-harvards/g-azsc/


or a Gary Numan featured short Harvard doco.
https://youtu.be/wSwYoKwuNz4

or if you have a bit more time to spare, Gary Numan The Radial Pair (Full Video)
Gary Numan/Norman Lees, The Radial Pair Full Video, Blackpool Airports Last Airshow 1992
https://youtu.be/-VTRVeDCXns

Thanks for those links , made interesting reading .
Did not know about all of the T6 aircraft in this country , or that they used them in films as a Zero .

In Gary Numans story it says about all of the books about the pilots .
I think I have most of them , Stanford Tuck ,John Kent , Adolf Galland , Pierre Closterman , Douglas Bader etc etc , but I never got to fly any of the aircraft .

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

In Gary Numans story it says about all of the books about the pilots .
I think I have most of them , Stanford Tuck ,

My father in law was based at Biggin Hill in WW2 and often talked about what a decent bloke Stanford Tuck was.
Sue's father was not a pilot but was in the surveillance dept and used to fit and retrieve the cameras in the planes and then develop the film when (and if) they returned, then produce the large prints to see what the enemy were up to.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

Sue's father was not a pilot but was in the surveillance dept and used to fit and retrieve the cameras in the planes and then develop the film when (and if) they returned, then produce the large prints to see what the enemy were up to.

Quite a challenge for the brave pilots knowing the planes they used had a rather modest cruising speed.

[Jeremy Hall]

Navy Wings one lives at Yeovilton and spends a lot of time flying about being noisy.

Noise is strange but I understand that it something to do with the prop speed at the tip exceeding the speed of sound such that when the listener is in a certain position the noise is very specific.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

My father in law was based at Biggin Hill in WW2 and often talked about what a decent bloke Stanford Tuck was.
Sue's father was not a pilot but was in the surveillance dept and used to fit and retrieve the cameras in the planes and then develop the film when (and if) they returned, then produce the large prints to see what the enemy were up to.

I spent 3 years of my Naval career as a Photographic Interpreter / Imagery Analyst; we were still using wet film then, from Canberra PR9s and Jaguars etc, but most of it was digital imagery via satellite.
Did once see a “Northern European research base” where bored guards had trampled a large heart in the snow with the message also trampled in which said “we love the USA” in a Cyrillic based script!!

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hall

Navy Wings one lives at Yeovilton and spends a lot of time flying about being noisy.

Noise is strange but I understand that it something to do with the prop speed at the tip exceeding the speed of sound such that when the listener is in a certain position the noise is very specific.

Hello Jeremy, long time no see. I hope all is well.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by andy97

Did once see a “Northern European research base” where bored guards had trampled a large heart in the snow with the message also trampled in which said “we love the USA” in a Cyrillic based script!!

Human beings.

[The Fat Clerk]

There's some barmy people about.
Tomorrow is the 500MRCI's seasons finale meeting @ Kirkistown & today 7 foolhardy drivers went out in a Force 9 gale & driving rain to practice for 4 hours!
4 BMW Mini's a Seat Leon and a Caterham 7 were out in their 15 minutes sessions and 1 hardy sole in a F.Ford 1600 went out alone every time.
Oh and this silly pillock stood on the gantry waving the flags, aided believe it our not by the 2 man Ambulance crew.
And to round off the day I got home to find we had a power cut that lasted in the small hours.
The forecast is a lot better for Race Day, let's hope so.

[justracing]

Originally Posted by The Fat Clerk

There's some barmy people about.
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Yep, on my way to Brands for the FFord festival in the pouring rain this morning so you're not alone in your insanity! You have to love your motor racing

[Jeremy Hall]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Hello Jeremy, long time no see. I hope all is well.

Same **** different day Peter, though now I am totally out of motor sport in every form maybe the **** has changed !

Trying to convert a barn into a house and find the half wit intractable bureaucrats are in this sphere as well.

Hey ho

Best wishes

[The Fat Clerk]

What a difference a day makes.
Zero wind, bit of a sea fret in the morning, bright sunshine all afternoon.
11 races and on my way home @ 4pm, not quite so barmy today!
Even better news, yesterdays big bike race was abandoned @ Bishopscourt (in my back garden) because of the weather, so today was practice and the racing is now tomorrow - hooray.

[delta]

Sorry to hear the weather is not so good back in the UK. No complaints from me hear at Jerez . ? Hapoy days

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by justracing

Yep, on my way to Brands for the FFord festival in the pouring rain this morning so you're not alone in your insanity! You have to love your motor racing

I watched some of it on the box and I think that there was about 2 or 3 spectators round the track for the last hour or so !
It was a bit different to last weekend !!!!

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I watched some of it on the box and I think that there was about 2 or 3 spectators round the track for the last hour or so !
It was a bit different to last weekend !!!!

Should never have taken the Festival away from Snetterton!!

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Should never have taken the Festival away from Snetterton!!

Now you're opening up a can of worms there! Easy to forget the first four years it was held at Snetterton. And that was around the time they started using the shorter circuit. Wonder why they moved it to Brands?

[Peter Mallett]

Could it be because John Webb, who was a massive supporter of ff1600 ran Brands and Snetterton was independent at the time.

[John Turner]

Sounds like a good shout, Peter. I've just about stirred myself from lethargy to dig out a few shots of radial engined aircraft, mostly taken at Goodwood years ago:-