Le Mans Series 2007 - Page 50

Francesco · 24 Jul 2007, 18:10 (Ref:1972324)

GPC is going to split with Ferrari... next year 1-2 Corvette... not sure if GT1 or GT2

http://www.racingworld.it/fiagt/noti...?idtitolo=3613

Speed-King · 24 Jul 2007, 19:02 (Ref:1972380)

If they still want to compete in Italian GT and int'l. GT Open it would have to be a GT2 Vette. Unless they keep their Ferraris for these championships.

HORNDAWG · 24 Jul 2007, 20:01 (Ref:1972443)

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Originally Posted by Francesco

GPC is going to split with Ferrari... next year 1-2 Corvette... not sure if GT1 or GT2

http://www.racingworld.it/fiagt/noti...?idtitolo=3613

Sounds like GPC is getting chaffed from Ferrari's (? pugno e di acciaio?) business practices with the 430.

L.P.

brielga · 25 Jul 2007, 08:19 (Ref:1972808)

from the article they seem to claim the opposite, it states that Ferrari underestimated Porsche's 997 potential despite GPC's advise and that they are acting as the de facto salesmen for Ferrari which they also deem too expensive. Pretty venomous if you ask me.

Dutton · 27 Jul 2007, 23:01 (Ref:1975048)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Sounds like GPC is getting chaffed from Ferrari's (? pugno e di acciaio?) business practices with the 430.

L.P.

To what do you refer? I ask because I have a tremendous inclination towards Ferrari over all others (always have, always will): that is to say, if there is a Ferrari in a race then I want it to win (works over customer/privateer, but it is all good either way).

They aren't always the nicest operators, though, so I am just interested to know what they have been up to.

HORNDAWG · 27 Jul 2007, 23:43 (Ref:1975065)

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Originally Posted by brielga

from the article they seem to claim the opposite, it states that Ferrari underestimated Porsche's 997 potential despite GPC's advise and that they are acting as the de facto salesmen for Ferrari which they also deem too expensive. Pretty venomous if you ask me.

Did I not state it right in Italian? Fists made of steel(?), in other words their way or nothing!
No carry through with the 575 or a 599 GT-1, also the situation with the MC12. GPC has warned them of the potential of the 997 to no avail, I may be incorrect but I took it to mean that you pretty much had to be a dealer in order to get the 430 GT-2. Also that the cost of the car and what is includes ( or doesn't) is pretty exorbitant and that developemental cost is to be shared between the team and Ferrari. Also the politics of getting the factory drivers in the car. And that if this is how they are going to be treated after the length of their current relationship, and that it does not look to improve in the future, it is time to look elsewhere. And that at the moment Corvette seems to be, to them, the best bang for the buck!
But then again I am probably wrong in my interpretation (as usual).

L.P.

**Bentley03** · 28 Jul 2007, 05:53 (Ref:1975130)

I'm very pleased to see (and I don't think this was picked up on in the Audi R10 thread) that 'Round 2' of Peugeot v Audi is likely to take place at Silverstone in September............

**Bentley03** · 28 Jul 2007, 06:38 (Ref:1975135)

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Darren Manning will replace Neil Cunningham in the Embassy Racing Radical at Spa (a new addition to the Cunningham family is expected that weekend). Neil will be back for Silverstone, but Darren will remain with the team as part of a three driver line-up at Silverstone and Interlagos. Very strong driver combination!

brielga · 28 Jul 2007, 06:57 (Ref:1975143)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Did I not state it right in Italian? Fists made of steel(?), in other words their way or nothing!
But then again I am probably wrong in my interpretation (as usual).

L.P.

I see, maybe I interpreted wrong the "fist of steel" as in "Ferrari is demanding this or that". You are right in your interpretation, I just got the feeling from the article that they claim Ferrari is basically leaving them mostly on their own and that's what upset them. Ferrari dismissing rather than demanding

henk4 · 28 Jul 2007, 07:12 (Ref:1975145)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

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Darren Manning will replace Neil Cunningham in the Embassy Racing Radical at Spa (a new addition to the Cunningham family is expected that weekend). Neil will be back for Silverstone, but Darren will remain with the team as part of a three driver line-up at Silverstone and Interlagos. Very strong driver combination!

I don't particularly mind who the drivers are, as long as they bring along their support team...

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The Badger · 28 Jul 2007, 07:27 (Ref:1975154)

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Originally Posted by henk4

I don't particularly mind who the drivers are, as long as they bring along their support along .....

Now , thats the most truth ive heard on any forum for awhile Henk !!!

bil588 · 31 Jul 2007, 19:24 (Ref:1977562)

Is the Lucchini from RANIERI RANDACCIO a brand-new LMP2 car?

How good is the NICHOLSON McLAREN engine?

Why are they only racing at Spa? A test race?

KA · 31 Jul 2007, 19:39 (Ref:1977576)

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Originally Posted by bil588

Is the Lucchini from RANIERI RANDACCIO a brand-new LMP2 car?

How good is the NICHOLSON McLAREN engine?

Why are they only racing at Spa? A test race?

Not a new car- it's the ex-works Lucchini LMP2 car from 2005, which I think Randaccio bought last year, but hasn't raced it much. It originally ran with a Judd V8, but now uses the Nicholson-McLaren. When the factory team ran it, the car had a lot of transmission troubles- think the original gearbox (from Pankl in Austria) has now been replaced, possibly by an XTrac or Hewland unit?

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-07-10-045.jpg

Bill Binnie used to run the Nicholson engine, but switched to Zytek. Randaccio also used it in a Tampolli SR2 chassis in LMP2 in 2005

HORNDAWG · 31 Jul 2007, 19:48 (Ref:1977580)

Also some info at mariantic.co.uk and a Lucchini brochure

L.P.

vorsprung · 1 Aug 2007, 10:44 (Ref:1978075)

Lister LMP1 project hasn't progressed during the last two months and they will not race this year, endurance-info

**Bentley03** · 1 Aug 2007, 11:38 (Ref:1978128)

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Originally Posted by vorsprung

Lister LMP1 project hasn't progressed during the last two months and they will not race this year, endurance-info

Let me add to that article by posting this quote from Lister's own forum (posted 10/7/07):

"We are working on finishing the LMP1 before too long but it looks unlikely that it will race this year. There seems a lot of dissatisfaction within the entry for the Le Mans Series among the petrol runners - no-one has a chance to win with the diesels; and there will probably be an Audi at Silverstone. All teams want the opportunity to win their class/overall - a lot of money is involved for the teams to provide excellent cars and drivers but what is the incentive? Also, for any potential sponsors? Unfortunately I think this means teams have to depend more and more on paying drivers and looking at the financial aspect rather than the 'buzz' and satisfaction."

The old petrol/diesel equivalency debate just won't go away............

henk4 · 1 Aug 2007, 11:42 (Ref:1978132)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Let me add to that article by posting this quote from Lister's own forum (posted 10/7/07):

"We are working on finishing the LMP1 before too long but it looks unlikely that it will race this year. There seems a lot of dissatisfaction within the entry for the Le Mans Series among the petrol runners - no-one has a chance to win with the diesels; and there will probably be an Audi at Silverstone. All teams want the opportunity to win their class/overall - a lot of money is involved for the teams to provide excellent cars and drivers but what is the incentive? Also, for any potential sponsors? Unfortunately I think this means teams have to depend more and more on paying drivers and looking at the financial aspect rather than the 'buzz' and satisfaction."

The old petrol/diesel equivalency debate just won't go away............

but it looks like Lister is using this as an easy excuse for being not able to enter a car that will at least be able to give paroli to the factory and Rollcentre cars.

**Bentley03** · 1 Aug 2007, 11:46 (Ref:1978136)

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Originally Posted by henk4

but it looks like Lister is using this as an easy excuse for being not able to enter a car that will at least be able to give paroli to the factory and Rollcentre cars.

I accept that completely. And, to be honest, a few outings this year to get to grips with their new car (let's face it, they would be unlikely to be challenging for honours straight out of the box) would be good preparation for 2008.

The Badger · 1 Aug 2007, 14:05 (Ref:1978259)

There always seems to be an excuse from Lister the last few years ..... new this ,new that . Next year the car could well be old hat !!! What will he do then ?

Shame really ..... but not surpriseing really .....

Marcel ten Caat · 2 Aug 2007, 10:55 (Ref:1978963)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

I'm very pleased to see (and I don't think this was picked up on in the Audi R10 thread) that 'Round 2' of Peugeot v Audi is likely to take place at Silverstone in September............

Highly unlikely now..Audi confirmed they will not attend Silverstone.

The Badger · 2 Aug 2007, 11:19 (Ref:1978981)

Why dont they want to support the LMS .....

Fogelhund · 2 Aug 2007, 11:32 (Ref:1978992)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Highly unlikely now..Audi confirmed they will not attend Silverstone.

Just curious, where did they confirm this, as I haven't seen it yet. Thanks

**Bentley03** · 2 Aug 2007, 12:07 (Ref:1979017)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Just curious, where did they confirm this, as I haven't seen it yet. Thanks

Here!

Very disappointing, I was looking forward to a little pressure being applied to the Peugeot Le Mans Series steamroller.........

Hugewally · 2 Aug 2007, 15:09 (Ref:1979123)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Why dont they want to support the LMS .....

Their diesels are already selling well across the pond...

chernaudi · 2 Aug 2007, 21:47 (Ref:1979416)

And that's basically the reason that Peugeot doesn't want to run cars in the ALMS-Peugeot hasn't sold cars here(North America) since 1992. Audi would just be preaching to the choir(but then again, Peugeot is kinda too).

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