Interesting Item on New Chassis in Indy Star (Merged) - Page 53

JagtechOhio · 20 Aug 2010, 23:46 (Ref:2747845)

Already done from this end. Thanks for the note, hope you had a great vacation.

Tim Northcutt · 21 Aug 2010, 20:51 (Ref:2748111)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JagtechOhio

Already done from this end. Thanks for the note, hope you had a great vacation.

It was actually spent doing the "honey-do" list before football practices (I'm a coach) really get geared up...

But it was nice to be away from the grind of the office and get some fresh air...

JagtechOhio · 21 Aug 2010, 20:59 (Ref:2748114)

Tell you what...counting my Dad, I can think of three role models in my life. One was my Peewee football coach.

That's a great service you do, and the value should never be underestimated.

JagtechOhio · 22 Aug 2010, 00:27 (Ref:2748175)

Castroneves says Penske won't be messing with aero kits:

http://www.racintoday.com/archives/20594

This is another example of why, if you could cap costs, you could promote innovation.

Penske won't do the R&D for an aero kit, since he'd have to sell them to everybody and thus have no advantage. If you could enforce a cap on R&D, then everybody could build their own and you wouldn't be forced to share your design.

So one company who spends the most on R&D will come up with the best kit, which everyone will be able to buy. Penske isn't the only one who will recognize it's a game that isn't worth playing.

ptclaus98 · 25 Aug 2010, 23:32 (Ref:2750281)

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ject-2012-car/

Ruh roh.

JagtechOhio · 26 Aug 2010, 02:36 (Ref:2750341)

news at 11:00

JagtechOhio · 28 Aug 2010, 08:39 (Ref:2751333)

Penske racing will not be producing aero kits for the 2012 Dallara chassis. At least, that's what Helio Castroneves was quoted as saying:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...that-qualifies

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Aug 2010, 16:35 (Ref:2751461)

Are they going to race these instead?

Down F0rce · 30 Aug 2010, 12:39 (Ref:2752248)

Is that a photoshop job? Mighty impressive looking one, shame it's not based on reality.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 30 Aug 2010, 13:30 (Ref:2752262)

Either that or it's rendered, I found this whilst trawling the www; shame they aren't racing those.

JagtechOhio · 31 Aug 2010, 06:58 (Ref:2752563)

Looks like cars repainted with the current livery for a showroom display at headquarters. A Dallara tub in the background too, methinks.

wnut · 31 Aug 2010, 08:06 (Ref:2752581)

Love those cars. Especially the aero, I wish both F1 and IRL would adopt exactly those wings as standard for their front and rear wings.
Bet they would be able to race and would not cripple one another with wake turbulence.
Oh yeah and get the engines to 3.5 litre na's.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 31 Aug 2010, 12:43 (Ref:2752691)

Those cars are in speedway configuration, hence the aeros. If you notice on the fins, the nearer car has Toyota on hit and the one behind has Audi. I tried e-mailing the pic to Penske, asking if it was a mock-up but it bounced back.

wnut · 1 Sep 2010, 01:07 (Ref:2752969)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Those cars are in speedway configuration, hence the aeros. If you notice on the fins, the nearer car has Toyota on hit and the one behind has Audi. I tried e-mailing the pic to Penske, asking if it was a mock-up but it bounced back.

The cars in that configuration with small aero and large tyres would deliver magnificent racing on a road course.
I take it the minimal aero on a speedway is to stop the wake turbulence writing off the cars behind.

I believe running the cars in that configuration on road courses would solve the ability of the cars to race in close company and atract the spectators back.

Would cost nothing to implement either!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 01:47 (Ref:2752975)

Minimum aeros is something you've been advocating on the F1 section of 10-Tenths. The minimal wings on the speedway configuration are designed to reduce drag and produce less downforce. The downforce that is produced comes from the Venturi tunnels on the underside of the car.

As for those cars, they look like PC 24s.

wnut · 1 Sep 2010, 02:02 (Ref:2752979)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Minimum aeros is something you've been advocating on the F1 section of 10-Tenths. The minimal wings on the speedway configuration are designed to reduce drag and produce less downforce. The downforce that is produced comes from the Venturi tunnels on the underside of the car.

As for those cars, they look like PC 24s.

If the F1 cars looked like this with a standard aero package and they could actually race each other properly, they would represent a massive step forward in good looks ( the current cars look like a vacuum cleaner pushing the kids meccano set across the carpet) and entertainment.

BJ could you post a copy of that pic into the F1 aero conspiracy thread and ask the guys what they would think if the F1s looked like that and could race.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 02:13 (Ref:2752981)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wnut

If the F1 cars looked like this with a standard aero package and they could actually race each other properly, they would represent a massive step forward in good looks ( the current cars look like a vacuum cleaner pushing the kids meccano set across the carpet) and entertainment.

BJ could you post a copy of that pic into the F1 aero conspiracy thread and ask the guys what they would think if the F1s looked like that and could race.

Sure. Do you know Penske's e-mail address? I tried e-mailing them about this pic but to no avail.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 02:28 (Ref:2752983)

What's the address for the thread, having trouble finding it.

wnut · 1 Sep 2010, 02:47 (Ref:2752987)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

What's the address for the thread, having trouble finding it.

Thread
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121520

BJ I don;t have any Penske contacts other than the blindingly obvious:

http://www.penskeracing.com/

www.penskeshocks.com/

penskeracingmuseum.com/

I believe JagTech will solve your problem though!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 03:01 (Ref:2752990)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wnut

Thread
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121520

BJ I don;t have any Penske contacts other than the blindingly obvious:

http://www.penskeracing.com/

www.penskeshocks.com/

penskeracingmuseum.com/

I believe JagTech will solve your problem though!

I posted that and will probably be crucified by the F1 contingent,

.

I tried their racing site but nothing, so thanks for the other addresses; JagTech should know.

JagtechOhio · 1 Sep 2010, 03:26 (Ref:2752991)

What in he77 did I do now?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 03:44 (Ref:2752992)

Nowt so far, thought you might know Penske's e-mail address.

JagtechOhio · 1 Sep 2010, 04:27 (Ref:2752996)

This one will work:

info@penskeracing.com.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Sep 2010, 11:14 (Ref:2753132)

Thanks but that didn't work, the e-mail bounced back.

ptclaus98 · 3 Sep 2010, 12:12 (Ref:2754007)

Hehe, I burned that bridge, I think.

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