BTCC 2013 - Any thoughts?? - Page 53

psq43 · 31 Jan 2013, 17:22 (Ref:3196658)

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Originally Posted by andyjr0999

Also what are the chances of Thorney Motorsport announcing Constructor backing with Vauxhall for their two Insignias??? Gio Back then.....

Er...zero!

mark_l · 31 Jan 2013, 18:17 (Ref:3196682)

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Originally Posted by psq43

Er...zero!

The Thorney Motorsport Truck is up for sale I believe.

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...ll_awning.html

VXDave · 31 Jan 2013, 18:30 (Ref:3196687)

Their sponsor is sorting out a new one apparently...

Craner Curves · 31 Jan 2013, 22:14 (Ref:3196778)

Makes sense. Do deals with companies that provide that service, rather than owning your own equipment.

simmo151 · 1 Feb 2013, 00:26 (Ref:3196835)

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Originally Posted by W.A Trichlorostyrene

More Team HARD promotion. This time it's a partnership with an online simracing series. Winner gets a VW Golf test, many other prices available.

Thoughts?

https://www.facebook.com/TouringProS...69762833071471

The sim league is top quality, organised by a great bunch of people often out of their own pocket. I have every faith that this promotion will occur and be successful.. after all i will be competing in it. though highly unlikely to win!
Some fast guys in the virtual world be intersting to see what they can do for real.

Anyway BTCC, shaping up to be a good one. Though i personally thought stefan hodgetts would have got the secnd MG seat.

Andrew Abbott · 1 Feb 2013, 08:20 (Ref:3196955)

Don't forget that Norbert Michelisz came from the world of sim racing... and look where he is now!

cos · 1 Feb 2013, 09:05 (Ref:3196983)

HARD are announcing their 5th driver today (to share the 2nd Passat with Robb Holland).

Jiiiiiiim · 1 Feb 2013, 12:13 (Ref:3197067)

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Originally Posted by cos

HARD are announcing their 5th driver today (to share the 2nd Passat with Robb Holland).

Another shock after yesterdays MG surprise

. Howard Fuller will be sharing the 2nd Passat with Rob Holland

Craner Curves · 1 Feb 2013, 19:02 (Ref:3197577)

Right, so what was Gilham meaning by a 'big name' last week? Or was that in relation to the 4th car, which could become Fuller's car if he gets a full season budget? Confused? You're damn right.

Craner Curves · 1 Feb 2013, 22:26 (Ref:3197727)

Interesting post from Tony on Facebook. He was out of funds in 2011, not "saving it for the future" like his chum who posts on here tells us....

Reflection time. This time last year we had 1 VW Golf Cup car and were looking to get back in to the BTCC after our debut season in the Vectra was cut short due to a budget shortfall.
12 months on and we now have 8 VW Cup Cars being prepped and 4 NGTC cars being readied for BTCC action for our 14 drivers all at our new Team HQ.
It has been a whirlwind year and the HARD. work is well underway. We are under no illusions this is going to be easy but we have built up an amazing team and are all up for the challenge ahead.
Thank you all for your continued support and looking forward to seeing what our boys have created and also what our boys and girls can do on track!!!

I've got to say, he's a confident ambitious guy. If he can churn out NGTC cars in a short timeframe, then he could be onto something there.

davyboy · 2 Feb 2013, 08:41 (Ref:3197984)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Interesting post from Tony on Facebook. He was out of funds in 2011, not "saving it for the future" like his chum who posts on here tells us....

Reflection time. This time last year we had 1 VW Golf Cup car and were looking to get back in to the BTCC after our debut season in the Vectra was cut short due to a budget shortfall.
12 months on and we now have 8 VW Cup Cars being prepped and 4 NGTC cars being readied for BTCC action for our 14 drivers all at our new Team HQ.
It has been a whirlwind year and the HARD. work is well underway. We are under no illusions this is going to be easy but we have built up an amazing team and are all up for the challenge ahead.
Thank you all for your continued support and looking forward to seeing what our boys have created and also what our boys and girls can do on track!!!

I've got to say, he's a confident ambitious guy. If he can churn out NGTC cars in a short timeframe, then he could be onto something there.

The $64,000 question still hasn't been answered. All of this costs an inordinate amount of money. Where has it come from ?

Greem · 2 Feb 2013, 08:50 (Ref:3197989)

I'm sure I said a while ago: it's none of our business.

It's a classic "in the public interest" debate. Where the money has come from is of interest to some, but it's not actually something we need to know so isn't actually "in the public interest". "Of interest to the public" is a different thing entirely.

We could be asking the same question of all the teams, but we don't - because they're private businesses. Gilham is running one of those too. Do you ask your local new independent coffee shop where "the money came from"?

davyboy · 2 Feb 2013, 09:04 (Ref:3197997)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I'm sure I said a while ago: it's none of our business.

It's a classic "in the public interest" debate. Where the money has come from is of interest to some, but it's not actually something we need to know so isn't actually "in the public interest". "Of interest to the public" is a different thing entirely.

We could be asking the same question of all the teams, but we don't - because they're private businesses. Gilham is running one of those too. Do you ask your local new independent coffee shop where "the money came from"?

Nothing to do with the BTCC is 'any of our business'... but there's no law in place to suppress our discussion or speculation

Greem · 2 Feb 2013, 09:14 (Ref:3198005)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Nothing to do with the BTCC is 'any of our business'... but there's no law in place to suppress our discussion or speculation

Oh, but there are plenty of laws doing exactly that, but we don't go far enough on Tenths to invoke them

Nigma · 2 Feb 2013, 11:17 (Ref:3198050)

Some drivers pay for their drives, on top of that Tony having plenty of money left over from his cage fighting days.

davyboy · 2 Feb 2013, 14:26 (Ref:3198149)

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Originally Posted by Nigma

Some drivers pay for their drives, on top of that Tony having plenty of money left over from his cage fighting days.

That was mentioned earlier... but obviously Tony appeared to cast doubt over the size of his personal budget in 2011 with his latest Facebook post.

davyboy · 2 Feb 2013, 14:30 (Ref:3198153)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Oh, but there are plenty of laws doing exactly that, but we don't go far enough on Tenths to invoke them

You can discuss or speculate on anything you like. Making claims about something or someone is a different matter obviously. But as you say, we don't do the latter on here and we still manage to have a lot of fun.

**BertMk2** · 2 Feb 2013, 15:46 (Ref:3198167)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

That was mentioned earlier... but obviously Tony appeared to cast doubt over the size of his personal budget in 2011 with his latest Facebook post.

But the difference there is that he would have had to spend his own money to fund his drive - now he has other drivers funding the car builds and he can use his own money to set up the team. In future years (with car builds paid for) he can start to make money from the business - so he ends up with cash coming in rather than just frittering away his money. Or at least - that's the theory.

davyboy · 2 Feb 2013, 16:02 (Ref:3198172)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

But the difference there is that he would have had to spend his own money to fund his drive - now he has other drivers funding the car builds and he can use his own money to set up the team. In future years (with car builds paid for) he can start to make money from the business - so he ends up with cash coming in rather than just frittering away his money. Or at least - that's the theory.

Maybe, I guess it's possible, but I still find it hard to believe that he could have a queue of people lined up to hand over nigh on £300K+ a pop to what's ostensibly an unproven outfit [at this level] when other established teams with ready to run cars had trouble getting anyone at all. Furthermore he'd already bought the Insignia before anyone was signed up. As I mentioned earlier in the thread he had an eBay auction going not that long ago in an attempt to source the funds for a single event in the Vectra... something he reiterated yesterday.

Burp · 2 Feb 2013, 23:18 (Ref:3198334)

Does he ever test at Zandvoort?

Craner Curves · 3 Feb 2013, 11:03 (Ref:3198519)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Maybe, I guess it's possible, but I still find it hard to believe that he could have a queue of people lined up to hand over nigh on £300K+ a pop

They're subsidised drives apparantly. Hence he can offer so many seats and has a high interest in them.

davyboy · 3 Feb 2013, 11:22 (Ref:3198531)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

They're subsidised drives apparantly. Hence he can offer so many seats and has a high interest in them.

I kinda figured they'd have to be if TOC was in one of them. Still begs the original question I [and a load of others] have been asking... I guess the answer may unfold in time (!)

Tom Bee · 3 Feb 2013, 21:59 (Ref:3198784)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

The $64,000 question still hasn't been answered. All of this costs an inordinate amount of money. Where has it come from ?

He was charging £299 for the VW Scolarship competition. I wonder how many people entered that??? Could that be where he got some of the money from????

**touringlegend** · 3 Feb 2013, 22:14 (Ref:3198795)

Highly doubtful. Even if you are very optimistic and say 100 people entered the VW scholarship, that still is only just short of £30k.

The money that's generated from that will run the car for the year and that's it.

Craner Curves · 4 Feb 2013, 18:51 (Ref:3199189)

Another hopeful who need 300k https://twitter.com/RaceDriverDan

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