ILMC/ALMS Round 1 - Sebring - 13-19 March 2011

[stuart thompson]

Well done to the guys at RLR! Iv got a feeling this is gonna be a good year for BMW this year.

[Rennen]

Congrats to ORECA and Highcroft too! Hard luck Audi...but what a great show and race test by the all new Pug 908s...fast and reliable! Match that R18! Well done mon ami!

[GT6]

Well what a great race and the sort of result we did not dare to think about, now looking forward to paul ricard and plans to watch at Spa and Le mans already in place

[Tom908V12]

I add my congratulations to ORECA(deserving winner, especially Lapierre and Duval), Highcroft(strong contender), Peugeot-Sport(908s globally quite reliable, even if not all perfect)and AUDI...

Congrats to BMW who double win the GT class

[911targa]

so 2011 is a BMW year,at least the beginning is.

so far they finish 1-2 in Daytona24 DP class,1-2 at Sebring12 GT Pro and won Dubai24 overall as well.

to me,Audi and ESM share the "worst luck"prize while Falken is named best improvement

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by joeb

Totaly impressed with the effort John and Jeremy have kept their commentary up for this long.

Agreed, they did a tremendous job. That was quite possibly the best RLM (sort of) coverage of an ALMS race I've heard. Like a fine wine!

[Bentley03]

Gripping race from start to finish and too many heroes to congratulate. A classic!

There's nothing to add to what's already been said regarding Oreca and Highcroft. Fairytale stuff, and yes, I was welling up big time during those closing laps.

I would like to make mention of Rebellion who, in my opinion, also did an outstanding job in what was uncharted territory for the team. For sure, they had a relatively quiet race and didn't enjoy the best of luck under the safety car, but the car held together and (for me) they demonstrated some of the potential of their partnership with Toyota. Good job!

[chernaudi]

I now think I understand the "gearbox" issue on the #7 908 that needed to be fixed when the car came in for the accident damage. It seems that the car had lost or was losing it's clutch.

Probably had nothing to do with the accident, but that's why Peugeot wanted to run the new 908 at Sebring during the race.

As for Dindo and Marc's accident, I saw the replay and to me it was a racing accident. Dindo threw a block but left room on the inside. Marc dove for an opening that closed up and by the time he tried to back out of it, it was too late and the combination of hard braking and the infamous bumps caused his nose to wash out. It happens.

You have to remember that in these cars going 150+ mph, that frost heaves feel like speed bumps, and the Pugs have never really taken well to bumpy tracks with their suspension setups. But accidents happen. Although I do doubt that it's any consolation for Audi, they did out-score Peugeot in the points for the ILMC with their 4th and 5th place finishes (vs Peugeot's 3rd and 8th), and Gene did get nailed for speeding entering the pits after he got away from the accident :/

[Victor_RO]

What if the clutch had been damaged in the accident? Novel idea, eh?

Also, Peugeot have trumped Audi in the manufacturers' points as well, Oreca scores points for Peugeot as a manufacturer. http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....5&postcount=23

[vyselegend]

I just realised that with that win Oreca added another own record for the now legendary 908 HDI FAP and it's V12, as the car now have scored race wins in five different years (07,08,09,10 and 11).

I don't think many prototypes an brag about such result! (appart the R8)

Even after a (short) night of sleep, I'm still impressed by the ARX 01e performance and reliability from yesterday. That car is very well born, it's fast, reliable, good on it's tyres, and probably the best of yesterday's P1 in fuel consumption.
Add to that it's run by a nearly perfect team, with a driver line-up which has nothing to envy to Audi and Peugeot.
IMO one of the most credible shot at LM this year. I can't believe there aren't tons of companies fighting for being their title sponsor!

[arakis]

can someone post here how the points are alocatet 1st to last, and how many cars score points for each manuf, and if any bonus points are added like qualy, best lap.... thanx

[vyselegend]

Originally Posted by arakis

can someone post here how the points are alocatet 1st to last, and how many cars score points for each manuf, and if any bonus points are added like qualy, best lap.... thanx

Gwyllion provided that link yesterday in the "Ask DSC" thread, it details point allocation amongst other crucial informations about ILMC.

Also the current championship table can be found here.

A single point for pole, no point for fastest lap. Only Le Mans has double points.

[arakis]

BMW shoud have 15+13--28 and yet they have in the list 29
corvette ara ok with 20
ferrari should have 8+5+1=14 but they have 15
porsche should have 7+6=13 but thay got 8

ok so i got the whoul +1 point for bmw and ferrari because of more then 12h on the engine maybe, but why did porsche get 8

so could someone explain this couse I anit getting it

[Dead-Eye]

edit: never mind

[arakis]

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

edit: never mind

no i figured out all the point for bmw, 1st 15 2nd 13 and 1pt for the engine running more then 12h 29
corvette 3rd 11 and 4th 9 thats 20, I guess they used new engines for the race

ferrari 5th 8pts 8th 5pts and 1pt for qualify, and 1 pt for engine thats 15
but the only problem is porsche wittch shoud at least get 6th 7pts 7th 6tps 13pts but insted it says in the table that thay have 8pts, anyone have any idea why?

[henk4]

so this is the real score after yesterday's race.

ILMC standings after the 12 Hours of Sebring
Constructors
LM P1: 1. Peugeot, 27 pts ; 2. Audi, 17 ; Aston Martin, 0.
LM GTE: 1. BMW, 29 pts ; 2. Corvette, 20 ; 3. Ferrari, 15 ; 4. Porsche, 8 ; 5. Aston Martin et Lotus, 0.

Teams
LM P1: 1.Team Oreca Matmut, 15 pts ; 2. Peugeot Sport, 12 ; 3. Audi Sport, 9 ; 4. Rebellion Racing, 6.
LM P2: 1. Signatech Nissan, 14 pts ; 2. OAK Racing, 11 ; 3. Level 5 Motorsports, 9.
LM GTE Pro: 1. BMW Motorsport, 16 pts ; A.F. Corse, 10 ; 3. Luxury Racing, 5.
LM GTE Am: 1. Krohn Racing, 15 pts ; 2. Proton Competition, 14.

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by henk4

so this is the real score after yesterday's race.

Whew! What math degree did you need to figure all that out?

DK

[henk4]

Originally Posted by dxk1

Whew! What math degree did you need to figure all that out?

DK

none, I received a press release from the ACO.

[profec291]

Originally Posted by henk4

none, I received a press release from the ACO.

Lol! Anyony in the US watching the recap show? I'm on the west coast and the abc channel is not showing the race.

[dxk1]

If you go by the 70% rule, 42 cars were finishers! Pretty good for Sebring.

DK

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by dxk1

If you go by the 70% rule, 42 cars were finishers! Pretty good for Sebring.

DK

Unlike at LM, cars were getting towed back to the pits for repairs though, IIRC.

[davehenrie]

Originally Posted by vyselegend

I don't think many prototypes an brag about such result! (appart the R8)

Well, there are a couple of other examples of Class domination over the years, the Porsche 956/62 models were very dominant in thier day. But over the span of years, the R8 was a monster, ESPECIALLY when you consider how neutered it was in it's last two years. Gimme a 2000 spec R8 with R15+ aero and the Pugs might not be so dominant. Is there a stat guy who'd like to total up the number of wins of the R8 compared to the Pug?

[arakis]

Originally Posted by davehenrie

Well, there are a couple of other examples of Class domination over the years, the Porsche 956/62 models were very dominant in thier day. But over the span of years, the R8 was a monster, ESPECIALLY when you consider how neutered it was in it's last two years. Gimme a 2000 spec R8 with R15+ aero and the Pugs might not be so dominant. Is there a stat guy who'd like to total up the number of wins of the R8 compared to the Pug?

that isn't comparable since the R8 didn't have any serius Manuf competition.

[davehenrie]

Originally Posted by arakis

that isn't comparable since the R8 didn't have any serius Manuf competition.

True, but Audi had to compete against the ACO. Witness 2005. I am not trying to be an Audi Fanboy, usually I rooted against them when I was watching the R8, (Dyson only managed a few wins but those were memorable) but it's dominance of the era was only cut short by limitations put on the car by the rule makers. The Panoz gave it some tests early in it's lifetime but I will agree, the R8 stood head and shoulders above the other cars. The 908, while clearly a little bit better than either of the last two Audi's, has never been able to dominate like the R8 did. And that is most likely as you say, the lack of a credible Manufacturer opponent.

[Martin90]

Originally Posted by dj choc ice

Also, a big thanks to RLM, Hindy and Shaw did a brilliant job with the commentary for the whole twelve hours.

Agreed! Great coverage from RLM. Love the combination of Hindy and Shaw!