The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga - Page 54

TS030 · 25 Jan 2012, 11:17 (Ref:3016714)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

A very warm welcome to 10Tenths, TS030, and many thanks for posting the link!

In the aftermath of Peugeot's withdrawal, the revelation of the 'seriousness' of the Toyota programme is very welcome indeed. A huge welcome back to the pinnacle of sportscar racing from 10Tenths Motorsport Forum!

Thanks Bentley,

Keep your fingers crossed for our success in the 2012 season.

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 11:24 (Ref:3016715)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Im not sure they are allowed that!?

The pit entry can be considered a braking zone. So they can probably use 500 kJ electric power in the pitlane.

However, if the hybrid system is connected to the front wheels, they must comply with the rule that states "the release of energy is permitted only above 120 km/h."

Strangely there is also the mandatory pitlane test:

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To be considered as hybrid, an LMP1 car must be able to move along the whole length of the pit lane (minimum 400 m) at 60 kph using only the electric motor or the flywheel system.

This rule is a bit strange if the hybrid system powers the front wheels. They must be able to demonstrate that they can run on pure electric power in the pitlane, but they can not use it in the race

deggis · 25 Jan 2012, 11:24 (Ref:3016716)

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TS030 · 25 Jan 2012, 11:43 (Ref:3016723)

I don't if posted until yet, but here's a video from Paul-Ricard this morning.
http://www.autohebdo.fr/endurance/le...au-paul-ricard

Pretty cool sound!

gustavobamba · 25 Jan 2012, 12:25 (Ref:3016738)

According to a Portuguese site (Autosport= http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=s...stories/102884), they are telling that:

"The time has come to evolve, and early in the morning Wurz ran in 1minute and47 seconds, a few minutes back he did in 1minute 45 seconds. Remember that Neel Jani posted a lap of 1m 46.783s on lap that secured the pole position for the 6 Hours of Le Castellet"

That looks promising, "2nd run" and already faster than Best petrol last year.

chernaudi · 25 Jan 2012, 12:51 (Ref:3016747)

As for the question about the BHH, it seems that the whole top of the front fenders are covered by a detatchable panel. The issue will be the rear wheels.

This is a rule, though, that's been known about for a while, so it makes one wonder if Audi or Toyota have plead a case to the ACO about extending that BoP penalty for teams that don't run the BHH past Sebring, though I doubt that.

But it is strange that neither Audi or Toyota have run that bodywork yet. Am I to guess that they're working on something to either cancel out any disadvantages or to get the holes to work to their advantage even?

And what am I hearing when the TS030 comes off that final corner before the main straight--the hybrid system kicking in (RWD mode, otherwise unlikely given the ACO's rules on that if it's front wheels) or is the TS030 not running traction control right now? It really revs up and sounds like it's really spinning the rear wheels under acceleration off that corner.

ss_collins · 25 Jan 2012, 13:53 (Ref:3016791)

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"The time has come to evolve, and early in the morning Wurz ran in 1minute and47 seconds, a few minutes back he did in 1minute 45 seconds. Remember that Neel Jani posted a lap of 1m 46.783s on lap that secured the pole position for the 6 Hours of Le Castellet"

That looks promising, "2nd run" and already faster than Best petrol last year

different track layout

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 14:04 (Ref:3016793)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...o.php?page=927 has some pictures of today's test session.

On the first pictures the nose is removed and it is possible to see a bit of the front suspension:

It looks conventional with the torsion bars. I am unable to spot drive shafts going to the front wheels.

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 14:16 (Ref:3016799)

More videos of the TS030, this time taken by Sam: pit exit and pit entry.

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After the TS030 initially pulls away in electric only mode the new V8 engine starts with a thump as the car heads down the pit lane. On returning to the pit lane the combustion engine is stopped and the car drives up to its pit box on electric only once again.

source: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...c-track-debut/

Simmi · 25 Jan 2012, 14:20 (Ref:3016802)

Best vid yet. This time onboard with Wurz for a flying lap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGR1...ature=youtu.be

chernaudi · 25 Jan 2012, 14:40 (Ref:3016814)

Man, I was about to post that

It sounds like the TS030 might be having some traction control issues. I don't know if it's an teething issue, but from the onboard it sounds good

The TS030 actually sounds decent for having a flatcrank V8--it actually sounds like an old '80's/early 90's F1 car.

Victor_RO · 25 Jan 2012, 14:43 (Ref:3016816)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Best vid yet. This time onboard with Wurz for a flying lap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGR1...ature=youtu.be

Toyota are really going for the PR award with this project, the amount of pictures, info and videos that have come out over the last 21 hours has been pretty staggering. I guess they're trying to build the fanbase before Le Mans. :lol:

As for the "traction control issues", doesn't that look more like aggressive KERS boost more than anything?

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 14:54 (Ref:3016823)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Toyota are really going for the PR award with this project, the amount of pictures, info and videos that have come out over the last 21 hours has been pretty staggering. I guess they're trying to build the fanbase before Le Mans. :lol:

If only they would remove the engine cover and allow the journalists to take pictures on the internals of the car

Acura did it with the ARX-02a.

Okay, that would ruin the fun of waiting for a lucky photographer being able to snap some pictures of the engine and suspension.

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

As for the "traction control issues", doesn't that look more like aggressive KERS boost more than anything?

Yes, that is hardly worth calling an "issue". This can be solved with some more development (more progressive release of electric energy) or driver familiarization (apply the throttle less hard).

Simmi · 25 Jan 2012, 15:33 (Ref:3016837)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Toyota are really going for the PR award with this project, the amount of pictures, info and videos that have come out over the last 21 hours has been pretty staggering. I guess they're trying to build the fanbase before Le Mans.

They really are and well done to them for doing it. Hopefully they will also step up to the plate later in the season and host some streaming like Pug did.

But in terms of building up a fanbase I think it is working. I'm going to certainly be supporting them and might even join the TTTT (TenTenths Toyota Team)

Looks like the may even have a member on the forum. Two words: pit visit!

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 15:38 (Ref:3016843)

@Simmi: If you start supporting the dieselkiller, it might be time to change your avatar

Coach Ep · 25 Jan 2012, 15:39 (Ref:3016844)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I'm going to certainly be supporting them and might even join the TTTT (TenTenths Toyota Team)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Two words: pit visit!

Bring your plastic gloves!

gustavobamba · 25 Jan 2012, 15:42 (Ref:3016849)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

@Simmi: If you start supporting the dieselkiller, it might be time to change your avatar

Good observation...

Simmi · 25 Jan 2012, 15:45 (Ref:3016850)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

@Simmi: If you start supporting the dieselkiller, it might be time to change your avatar

You could be right. But to be fair my avatar was never out of 'Audi fandom' - more just that it was a cool image.

And Coach Ep I would happily don a pair of yellow rubber gloves if I had to.

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 15:49 (Ref:3016853)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Bring your plastic gloves!

Yeah, the guy on this picture looks ready to do the dishes

Acid09 · 25 Jan 2012, 15:50 (Ref:3016856)

I don't know, these long gloves remind me more about veterinarians dealing with cows...

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 15:55 (Ref:3016858)

Please don't post pictures of that type of gloves

Anyway, it is better to look gay than to experience this.

Coach Ep · 25 Jan 2012, 16:04 (Ref:3016865)

Haven´t studied the pictures or the background articles yet but is there any signaling device (visible), preferably a light or lights, indicating that the hybrid system is active?

gwyllion · 25 Jan 2012, 16:36 (Ref:3016882)

Video of the Toyota TS030, provided by the ACO: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo0...ota-ts030_auto

Interview with Lapierre: http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/ni...ly-good-things
Interview with Wurz: http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/al...-future-is-now

Gingers4Justice · 25 Jan 2012, 16:56 (Ref:3016905)

110% rooting for Toyota. The car's beautiful and it sounds good too - and it's loud!

I can't wait for the pit walk. One of my memories of my first ever Le Mans was doing the pit walk as an excited toddler and seeing the Toyota GT-ONE so close. This year will feel similar.

Hope my girlfriend isn't reading, that must look pretty sad!

evanPGH · 25 Jan 2012, 18:07 (Ref:3016939)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Best vid yet. This time onboard with Wurz for a flying lap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGR1...ature=youtu.be

Thanks for posting! I've been anxiously awaiting an onboard vid.

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