'02 Astc?? - Page 56

racer69 · 13 Jun 2003, 02:13 (Ref:630141)

Richards has never run his own car in any endurance events, whether it be the 24hr, Sandown, or the Showroom Showdown.

If not PHR, how about the second Monaro? Or one of the overseas Porsche's?

**GTRMagic** · 13 Jun 2003, 02:36 (Ref:630152)

Maybe in the Old Blokes car, with Brock & Perkins

D.R.T. · 13 Jun 2003, 14:37 (Ref:630571)

AFter the huge bagging he gave the car last year, it would quite funny to see him race the Monaro this year. Maybe a Cirtek seat

**GTRMagic** · 13 Jun 2003, 23:04 (Ref:630996)

Is there going to be a return of the Cirtek guys?

I know Peter Hills of Mondeo fame allegedly has the 2002 car in his workshop, but it hardly constitutes a works effort

racer69 · 14 Jun 2003, 06:20 (Ref:631092)

According the MSN a while back Cirtek were returning with 1 or two cars, maybe to hook up with Hills for a 2 or 3 car team. A pity we haven't seen Hills Porsche on the track so far this year.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Jun 2003, 10:29 (Ref:631186)

Having seen the bulk of teh Porsche's engine all over the ground at the AGP like at a motor wrecker's yard, I am amazed it was as competitive at Bathurst as it was.....

D.R.T. · 14 Jun 2003, 13:11 (Ref:631225)

Yeah I would count on Cirtek being back at this years race this year. As Racer said, 2 cars is the talk plus the Hillsy car. It is true about Peter having last years POrsche with lead 16 hours of the 24 last year. I believe a great move for Hills.
Also Ciekel Motorsport are aiming to come back with 2 Porsches this year.

the man · 20 Jun 2003, 13:24 (Ref:637599)

does anyone have word on if Martian Short is coming back withe the big mighty Mosler Mt-900-R or the newer car

D.R.T. · 21 Jun 2003, 14:00 (Ref:638446)

I am not sure of the model of car, but he said he be coming back with 2 Moslers for this years race and with more of his British team

RaceTime · 24 Jun 2003, 05:04 (Ref:641041)

OK ST's and FT's have a HUGE entry for Wakefield Park next week:

Walter - Peugeot
Morgan - Alfa
Byers - Sierra
Dale - Primera
TBA - Primera
Gurr - BMW
Searle - BMW
Henderson - Vectra

And that's all folks....8 St's - coupled with 4 Future Tourers and two sports sedans all they can muster up is a 14 car padded field.

Not really good enough is it? Especially when you consider, at the same meeting, there are currently:

Production Sports Cars - 25
Alfa/Daewoos - 25
Group S - 28
Group N - 32
Kingswood - 24
HQ's - 36

Certainly the odd category out....

**GTRMagic** · 24 Jun 2003, 05:35 (Ref:641056)

So where did the Hills Mondeos end up?? And how long has a Sierra been a pukka SuperTourer??

On sheer carspeed, the 2 BMW's should street the field....

kmchow · 24 Jun 2003, 06:14 (Ref:641075)

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Originally posted by GTRMagic
So where did the Hills Mondeos end up??

Someone mentioned a few messages back that they have been leased to some Malaysian team to run in their national series.

Quote:

And how long has a Sierra been a pukka SuperTourer??

They have never been classed as officially ST. The best they could ever be is "Class 2". They were raced until '94 in the ASTC and '97 in the STCC. Though I think the Sierra was classed in the STCC as a "Synsam Cup" car. The cars in those classes were ex-Class 2 cars like 2 door BMWs and 190Es I believed?

**GTRMagic** · 24 Jun 2003, 06:26 (Ref:641082)

Be interesting to know which one it is, the only Sierra truly built for ST was the Steve Ellery one, which is in Rob Tweedie's hands now

RaceTime · 24 Jun 2003, 06:27 (Ref:641083)

Arghhh thanks guys just made me realise that the Byers car enetered at Wakefield is a Mondeo, NOT a Sierra...

Apologies

**GTRMagic** · 24 Jun 2003, 06:28 (Ref:641084)

No worries RT... I presume this is the ex-McGill one??

RaceTime · 24 Jun 2003, 06:41 (Ref:641093)

Have to plead ignorance here as I don;t know - just have the basic entries available at this stage - I could find out more on Sunday at the All British Meeting and let you know when I get on line next week (I am staying at Wakefield Park from Friday this week 27th through to July 14th - 3 weekends in a row of Wakefield Meetings

**GTRMagic** · 24 Jun 2003, 07:16 (Ref:641117)

I hope you like the cold...

RaceTime · 24 Jun 2003, 08:05 (Ref:641157)

Thanks - *******!

- Am prepared for it though. My eldest kid is coming up with me but coming back on Monday nights train to Melbourne (suffer!!!!)

May be going up to Oran Park next Wednesday for the Procar test day..

Crash Test · 24 Jun 2003, 10:52 (Ref:641264)

I can't wait for the July 5/6 meeting in Warwick. The last thing i heard was that we were going to sacrifice a HQ Holden to keep us warm...

racer69 · 24 Jun 2003, 11:10 (Ref:641283)

Quote:

Originally posted by kmchow
They were raced until '94 in the ASTC

Sierra's (and BMW M3's) raced in the ASTC until the end of 1996 (Peter Hills amaong the Sierra runners). The Ford Sierra's FIA homologation ran out at the end of 1996.

CooperS79 · 24 Jun 2003, 11:14 (Ref:641288)

Racetime, any indication of who will be attending that Procar test day?? As in competitors.

RaceTime · 24 Jun 2003, 11:27 (Ref:641313)

Not at this stage - I am still waiting on an 'official' answer from Oran Park - I have offered to time every one at no charge to the track or competitors - but they must think there is a trick as they won;t give an answer yet...

If worse comes to worse I'll sit at the end of pit lane and time them from there - it's an open test day!

Will try and find out more on Thursday..

hoonboyz · 24 Jun 2003, 15:08 (Ref:641531)

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Test
I can't wait for the July 5/6 meeting in Warwick. The last thing i heard was that we were going to sacrifice a HQ Holden to keep us warm...

let me know where to be Crash Test

(HQ , XB i could care less),i can feel the subzero temps allready!!!!!! BRRRRR 3 days it might kill me !!!!

Crash Test · 24 Jun 2003, 21:44 (Ref:642006)

The last time we were out there in May, it was -3 degrees at 6am, but at least out there it warms up during the day...

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jun 2003, 01:31 (Ref:642162)

So did anyone time the Konica Supercar test session at QR on Monday... or the FF session last Sunday?? Its hard to make sense of the noise from various places without the comfort of a RaceTime/Natsoft official timing on the day....

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