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2 May 2004, 20:38 (Ref:958812)
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If the last few posts seem inconsistent with the flow of the conversation, it is because many posts which were referring to Superunknown's have been pulled. My apologies if yours was one of 'em.
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2 May 2004, 20:46 (Ref:958816)
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The story and link which Dov posted tells everything you could ever want to know about Hemelgarn's fitness centers, but very little about his ChampCar plans.
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2 May 2004, 20:53 (Ref:958825)
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"I have a tendency to let my mind wander a bit during some of the yellow flag conditions; I look around, check out people in the stands, things like that" Darren Law - Lizard Extrordinaire and he's gonna be GT Leader and Brumos Porsche driver! |
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2 May 2004, 21:02 (Ref:958832)
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2 May 2004, 23:20 (Ref:958916)
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its not good to see undertalented drivers like micheal valiante being picked over talented drivers like roman rusinov and sergey zlobin.
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3 May 2004, 02:06 (Ref:958988)
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3 May 2004, 03:41 (Ref:959018)
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 From a friend in "the know" "Ron is a a pretty good guy. He has been involved in IndyCar racing since 1982-'83. He primarily focused on Indy for years- including winning in '96 with Buddy Lazier. At Indy, Ron always had a primary car that had a serious pro in it. Then, a second car with a buy-a-rider and then, he'd often run a third car for a short-tracker or Indy car veteran. I always liked that about Ron. But, the money just got to be too much." |
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3 May 2004, 05:46 (Ref:959045)
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how funny, other folks in "the know" understand the complete opposite being true about the man as an understood...
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3 May 2004, 05:48 (Ref:959047)
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mags, your buddy in "the know" is obviously not as in "the know" as you think if he's saying that hemelgarn runs a good outfit... Last edited by Superunknown; 3 May 2004 at 05:56. |
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3 May 2004, 18:40 (Ref:959586)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 20+ car ChampCar GRID Shaping Up ?!?!
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Latest from the Grapevine is that the 19th car we shall see on the grid at Monterrey will come from WALKER/HEMELGARN - a joint effort using ex-Forsythe Reynards ?!... and that solution will (proverbially) kill two birds with one stone...  Here's how the line-up scenario looks like now: 1. FORSYTHE - #1 - Paul Tracy 2. FORSYTHE - #3 - Rodofo Lavin 3. FORSYTHE - #7 - Patrick Carpentier 4. NEWMAN/HAAS - #2 - Sebastien Bourdais 5. NEWMAN/HAAS - #6 - Bruno Junqueira 6. HERDEZ - #4 - Ryan Hunter-Reay 7. HERDEZ - #55 - Mario Dominguez 8. COYNE - #11 - Oriol Servia 9. COYNE - #19 - Tarso Marques and/or Jaime Melo or Michael Keohane or Ralph Firman or Tomas Enge 10. BACHELART - #14 - Alex Sperafico 11. BACHELART - #34 - Justin Wilson 12. KALKHOVEN - #12 - Jimmy Vasser 13. KALKHOVEN - #21 - Roberto Gonzalez 14. GENTILOZZI - #8 - Alex Tagliani 15. GENTILOZZI - #17 - Nelson Philippe 16. RUSSO - #9 - Michel Jourdain 17. RUSSO - #10 - AJ Allmendinger 18. WALKER - #5 - Mario Habereld 19. WALKER/HEMELGARN - #15 - Michael Valiante or Rafael Martinez or Townsend Bell or Jaime Melo or Ralph Firman Possibles: 20. FITTIPALDI - #20 - Gaston Mazzacane or Ricardo Sperafico or Jaime Melo or Christian Fittipaldi 21. KALKHOVEN - #22 - Josh Hunt, Christian Murchison, Seung Yin Lee, and/or Townsend Bell 22. FORSYTHE/LEBERLE - #24 - Townsend Bell or Jonathan Macri or Jaime Melo or Ralph Firman or Michael Keohane btw, for the updated picturesque version (when Stranger wakes up, btw  ) go to www.champcarfan.com and click on the "Line-up" thingy ?! zerO |
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3 May 2004, 19:03 (Ref:959606)
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Zero - how come your line up never mentions Tiago Montiero?
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3 May 2004, 19:17 (Ref:959628)
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3 May 2004, 19:38 (Ref:959659)
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Valiente - no ride. 12:38.
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3 May 2004, 20:16 (Ref:959717)
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5 May 2004, 17:24 (Ref:961693)
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firstly - why is it that half the people can't get the name right ??? V A L I A N T E - with an "A" !! and secondly, it doesn't mean that he still isn't considered as the #1 candidate for that seat - especially since Hemelgarn ditched his Indy effort and withdrew the entry yesterday, and MV was Walker's "pet project" since last year ?! (insert "idea" emoticon) zerO |
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5 May 2004, 17:29 (Ref:961701)
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...besides, one just doesn't say the same story to everyone that calls (insert "idea" emoticon)
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5 May 2004, 17:34 (Ref:961711)
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I hope you are right.
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5 May 2004, 18:25 (Ref:961784)
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Since Ron couldn't swing the $$$$ for an Indy effort when he already has a chassis that needs only an upgrade kit and a deal with Chevy (a company he has had a long-time relationship with).... Where is he going to get the funds to run a Champ Car program or to pay his people for the rest of the season???? Don't tell me Walker is going to foot that bill....he didn't have the $$$ to run one car until right before Long Beach.... |
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5 May 2004, 22:21 (Ref:962043)
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I believe that Himelgarn is a competent owner, and I am sure that he has something figured out. Perhaps the Walker deal was for the chassis, and that his team already in place, can fix the car up. He can get the parts that he needs from Walker.
But all of this just shows that the chassis manufactuers really need to get going and crank out some chassies for next year! |
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5 May 2004, 22:27 (Ref:962049)
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I thought Hemelgarn was going to "lease" two Reynards for $1 each from Forsythe....
But he still has to have the $$$ for engines, tires, fuel, personnel, someone to drive the car, etc... He will have to have SOME money to run...and apparently, he didn't hav ethe money to run ONE race...Indy.... The math isn't adding up here.... I don't doubt that Hemelgarn will somehow work out something to race.... But I'm not holding my breath for the announcement to be made....because I don't expect him to be race ready before Milwaukee....and I don't think he has enough things pulled together to make an announcement soon...as in this week.... I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.... |
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5 May 2004, 22:43 (Ref:962057)
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I have to reluctantly agree... if he wanted to race then something should have happened by now. At least some information as to when they are planning to race. Perhaps they will be a mid-season entry, but what will be the point then?
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6 May 2004, 01:00 (Ref:962131)
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It is not a question of availablilty so much as price - Lola doesn't sell many chassis for one dollar!!
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6 May 2004, 11:06 (Ref:962390)
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The onyl fact right now for Hemelgarn is that he won't run the Indy 500 or any other IRL race. Nothign s definate for ChampCars, and it will cost money he currently doesn't have. Banding names like Bell and Melo around is one thign, but do these guys have the neccessary abcking? OWRS isn't obliged to get mroe cars into the grid now that they've reached 18.
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10 May 2004, 18:41 (Ref:966768)
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btw, silly biased AutoWeek confirms some of the rumors = http://autoweek.com/cat_print.mv?content_code=09522848
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12 May 2004, 09:18 (Ref:968460)
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