'Suzuki SC100' Special Saloon - help with history please!!

[big andy]

col ive pm you

[peter thurston]

Originally Posted by col rooney

Andy as far as i know after talking to Ginger at brands a few year ago its a 998imp he said it would not take a great deal to get it back out on track.Now that we seem to have a bit of intrest going in special and mod saloons do you think its worth trying to get a 1 of race in 09 some where ,Pete you interested in bringing the escort out and maybe Mad dog will join in with the metro ,would be a bit of fun

col

I've already enter'ed.

[M.Lowe]

Equinox thats the programme

Now the search is on to find it

[Clive Brown]

It originally used an Imp block , but cut off at main bearing deck level , and with a flange welded on to mate it to the Mini gearbox . It used an Imp head , but with the timing chain housing lopped off , and the cam belt-driven .

Later , because of the huge amount of work that went into altering an Imp block to suit , they cast up their own block , which made matters very much simpler . It still used Imp-ish rods , pistons , valves , camshafts , and so on , and retained its Imp-based head .

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

The Ben Bowlby programme was part of a series called ' Equinox ' , which was a sort of Channel Four equivalent of ' Horizon ' .

The BBC Drama series starred Nicky Henson ( not Gavin Henson , he's the Taff rugby player ! ) as the villainous Alan Hershner , and Peter Baldwin as Donna Kebab .

Ah yes that's right, forgot about Henson ( ha ha he ended up in enders and all!!) and the ex East enders bloke 'Terry' was Donna's mechanic/manager I think.

[driftwood]

I think it is about time that some of you guys got out abit more!!!

there are places called pubs golf courses and gymnasiums

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by col rooney

Andy as far as i know after talking to Ginger at brands a few year ago its a 998imp he said it would not take a great deal to get it back out on track.Now that we seem to have a bit of intrest going in special and mod saloons do you think its worth trying to get a 1 of race in 09 some where ,Pete you interested in bringing the escort out and maybe Mad dog will join in with the metro ,would be a bit of fun

col

A quick question about your car Col... I was looking at the 1976 Phoenix Park race programme last night [I am sad I know], but Dan was listed in there with an Imp... is it the same car ? I know yours is the same as the one I raced against Dan back in the late 1980s... but I didn't think the car was already a 'racing teenager' back then !

[col rooney]

Well i will attach a picture of the original car which the father bought in around 1974 from Brendan O'Mahoney who had bought the car from David Hall ,it was belived to be an x fraser imp with 5speed jk box and 998 on twin 38 webers.The 1st race was the park i think in 74 or 75 and the drive coupling broke his 2nd race was dundrum which he won ,he then lightened the car by cutting the roof panel out and replaced it with a sheet of alloy and the doors as well up until St Patricks day in 1980 when the trailer broke and the car and trailer hit the bank at Barberstown castle and bent the floor pan so we got another shell.While we were building the new car he drove the Motorola/Irish times imp which was owned by Jim Barber . The new car was fitted with rawlson panels and the old man got me to Tig weld the semi spaceframe in that he had designed .I remember his 1st outing with the car he was flying only to be taken out by 1 of the dempsey brothers one of those things that happen out on track.Any way the car was quick out of the box and to date the old man still holds the lap record at Mondello for upto 1350 mod saloons or gts as they called then by the time he gave up he had won quiet a few races in the old girl .The car sat in the garage until i was given it

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[davyboy]

Great to see those pictures and to hear the background. Its probably one of the most iconic cars in Irish racing and its fantastic its still driven in anger today.

[big andy]

does any one have photos of the sc100 form the 1980s?

[big andy]

heres a photo from last year at oulton davrian GT / suzuki sc100 the davrian is the quicker car both running 1300cc hyabusa

[driftwood]

is Davrian pukka car or a tube frame self build car

[big andy]

probabley started life as "pukka" car now its framed front and rear used to run a milington motor now 1300cc busa

[big andy]

help

when i bought the sc100 it had a small plunge type driveshaft/cv joint linking the bike box to the hewland the last meeting at oulton it failed ive looked every were for the same shaft and can not find one anything like it
having one maid from scratch is going to cost the earth can any identify the shaft

[driftwood]

it looks like the special march CV joint with the different angles
basically yr stuffed either replace them with std vw cv or tell the wife no housekeeping money till April

[megapin]

Throw the box away and use a diff Andy. Much simpler and a hell
of a lot lighter. Davy

[driftwood]

he cant do that whole car suspension is built around gbox
cheaper to make new cv joints

[big andy]

davy
im leaving the drive train the way it is the reverse gear is to handy and no chain problems i will have to bit the bullit and have a new drive shaft made
we have altered the driving poistion though moving the streeing wheel of centre and seat angle so i sit right now theres airshift gearchange and proper paddles for the gearshift to .it was on the rollers monday and made 187bhp @the wheels
are you out in the mini this year hows the imp coming along?

[megapin]

Andy,
Give Bob Dayson a ring he'll make an unbreakable
shaft for you and at a reasonable price.
As the engine & box aren't mounted together (Busa & Hewland !)
there isn't a real need for the gearbox casing. Just a lightweight
frame to take the suspension pickups. You wouldn't need a chain
just a drive flange from the Busa to a short prop and direct to an
oil filled diff casing. This could be solidly mounted to the said frame.
Electric reverse is a piece of cake. Just done one in my mini for £40 !
Davy
ps if you haven't got Bob's number e-mail me and I'll give you it.
Have just completed the Mini spaceframe rebuild and have just sold it.
About to start on the Stiletto but will be racing the elise again.
I know your brothers mini is quicker but I am going on a diet !!!!

[big andy]

shaft now made fitting engine tomorrow the cars been totally rebuilt now kawaski green and white the paddle shift make it feel like a proper racing car
the seating and steering have been repostioned so i fit in it
im thinging of doing the amoc super GT races think it will suprise a few bigger cars
is this car the fastest 1300cc saloon in the country??

[The Shrew]

Not with someone your size behind the wheel lol sorry couldnt resist that one

To be fair i stood at the start line and watched you fire off down to Old Hall last season and it fired off the line ! Your gearing is real close together or thats how it sounds while watching. Can and do you ever change the ratio's ?

[big andy]

you be pleased to no shrew ive lost weight for this year down from 20st to 19st 5lb
we never change the gearing on sc100 its geared for 150mph which it never pulls a oulton it should go a lot better this year as ive altered the seating and steering wheel poistion which makes it feel a lot better

[The Shrew]

Just out of interest how come you have made those changes then ?

One thing that always gets me thinking is why people buy or build the cars they have. This must be one of the most difficult things to decide in the respect of handeling. There must big a huge differences in the different cars.

How do you feel your car goes as its pretty small compared to some of the others you compete against.

[big andy]

i bought the suzuki because i love special saloons when i went to look at it obviously there was no test drive i new it was tight in the cockpit it wasn t till i got it to cadwell that i realised that i coudn t get in a comfortable driving position with the peddles and steering wheel in the middle and the seat on the **** and my head up against the rollcage
im pretty shaw now im comfy in it ill be able to peddle it a lot faster. its light less than 500kg with 210bhp but its got a short wheel base which make it very twitchy and hard to drive on the limit i find it hard to do more than a couple of laps in it flat out the heat in the cockpit is unbelievable so vie put a scoop on the roof to try and make it bearable out of all the cars ive got its the one i like to drive the least

[big andy]

after a summer rebuild we have finished the sc100