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Old 16 Dec 2009, 18:58 (Ref:2600917)   #126
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Why did ART test with Cooper and Yokohama? Are they planning to enter into other series or is Euroseries tyre supplier about to change?
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Old 17 Dec 2009, 10:06 (Ref:2601229)   #127
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Why did ART test with Cooper and Yokohama? Are they planning to enter into other series or is Euroseries tyre supplier about to change?
Have no idea, despite the fact that if tyre supplier in Euroseries could be about to change we should have hear anything.
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Old 18 Dec 2009, 01:46 (Ref:2601699)   #128
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To gather data and understanding of cooper and yokohama tyres so that when they compete in foreign races like they have done in the past. They are the best F3 team and they want to be thorough. Simple as that
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Old 18 Dec 2009, 12:12 (Ref:2601850)   #129
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Have no idea, despite the fact that if tyre supplier in Euroseries could be about to change we should have hear anything.
Some of the British teams said very definitely after the Marlboro Masters last year that they wouldn't be going back if the tyres had Kumho on the sidewall.

They tend to say that every year, but this time it sounded more serious, so perhaps a change is on the cards

The F3ES teams are able to come and race in BF3 on Cooper tyres without a problem, so that would be step in the right direction, but really it would be ideal to have Yokohamas, as in Macau because it would be an entirely neutral choice.
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Old 19 Dec 2009, 12:27 (Ref:2602326)   #130
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2010 British Formula 3 International Series
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03/04 GBR Oulton Park
02/05 GBR Silverstone
03/07 GBR Snetterton
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Old 19 Dec 2009, 14:56 (Ref:2602360)   #131
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Where did you get that, any link? It looks like you've done a cut and paste.

There is only one meeting in Europe, rather than the promised four. I knew Hockenheim was looking shaky, but thought Portimao would be okay.

Still, the return to Thruxton is very welcome. That always the sorts the men from the boys.

The Media Day is Wednesday, March 24th. Maybe then they'll announce the proper calendar.

PS Spa, Thruxton and Silverstone on successive weekend?!? When will they learn?

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Old 19 Dec 2009, 15:14 (Ref:2602369)   #132
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Old 19 Dec 2009, 16:45 (Ref:2602408)   #133
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Where did you get that, any link? It looks like you've done a cut and paste.

There is only one meeting in Europe, rather than the promised four. I knew Hockenheim was looking shaky, but thought Portimao would be okay.

Still, the return to Thruxton is very welcome. That always the sorts the men from the boys.

The Media Day is Wednesday, March 24th. Maybe then they'll announce the proper calendar.

PS Spa, Thruxton and Silverstone on successive weekend?!? When will they learn?
Having not the calendar is quite bad, but having not the season format (how many meetings) is unthinkable. How organizers believe /drivers can deal contracts to next year if we don't know if we are talking about 8 or 10 meetings?
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Old 19 Dec 2009, 16:45 (Ref:2602409)   #134
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Old 19 Dec 2009, 20:05 (Ref:2602484)   #135
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Thanks, I was looking for something like that.

It must have been given the OK at the WMC meeting earlier in the month. They can still add more rounds, but they will have to be ratified at the next WMC meeting, in March, I believe.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 05:16 (Ref:2602594)   #136
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SRO are slipping up! Only 3 clashes with BTCC weekends plus the usual clash with the Renault WSR weekend.

There has still not been an announcement from SRO with the dates. As an organisation SRO show no respect whatsoever for their stakeholders and seem to go out of their way to make it difficult for the businesses involved in their series to plan their logistics and expenditure in a sensible way.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 10:21 (Ref:2602649)   #137
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(8 épreuves / events)
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03/04 GBR Oulton Park
02/05 GBR Silverstone
03/07 GBR Snetterton
17/07 GBR Rockingham
01/08 BEL Total 24 Hours of Spa 2010
08/08 GBR Thruxton
14/08 GBR Silverstone

25/09 GBR F3GT Brands Hatch
Putting 3 meetings aside, the remaining of British Championship is going to be contested in 40 days (03/07 to 14/08). 40 days plus 3 meetings, if real, is a joke. OK, SRO can add rounds later, but having no word from them till now about (at least) their plannings isn't easy to understand.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 10:40 (Ref:2602651)   #138
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No doubt a European round or 2 will find it's way on the calendar, probably the weekend directly before or after a UK round, just to keep the logistics nice and stressful.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 11:04 (Ref:2602661)   #139
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It is hard to beleive that this is part of a professional racing series, with teams having full time employee's throughout the year. We now have a testing ban meaning mechanics and engineers etc with little to do for the next 3 months. I can see many teams starting to lay off during the new year, and then when the season starts all having to "bust a gut" to make it happen. Also only 8 rounds? I thought last year with only 10 rounds was short. How can drivers develop with such short championships. How can a budget be £500k +. That is now £62k + per weekend, how stupid is that. They think that by shortening the no. of rounds makes it cheaper, but most of the over heads are already covered.(engine lease, entries, staffing, workshop overheads, transport costs- other than fuel) Probably only a matter of £10k per round extra? Talk about false economies..
PS UK F3 should be making the most of the weaker pound, instead the SRO seems to be trying its hardest to kill it off. They aren't getting a backhander from GP3, are they?.. lol - no funny really
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 11:13 (Ref:2602667)   #140
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There will be 10 rounds I think, and with 3 races per weekend.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 11:22 (Ref:2602673)   #141
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They need to get their act together as FIA only list 8 rounds currently. I know this can be changed but they need to be better organised and get sorted earlier.
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 14:10 (Ref:2602733)   #142
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No doubt a European round or 2 will find it's way on the calendar, probably the weekend directly before or after a UK round, just to keep the logistics nice and stressful.
Indeed, the first 3 rounds are over months with 2 months between 2 and 3 - bound to be a couple of meetings slotting in between May and July at least?
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Old 20 Dec 2009, 22:06 (Ref:2602930)   #143
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There will be 10 rounds I think, and with 3 races per weekend.
That was the plan and I guess you ought to know but publishing an 8-round calendar, albeit via the FIA, is not a good start.

Nothing's going to happen now until the New year and the first official test is on February 22nd I believe, so someone really does need to start making an effort.
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Old 21 Dec 2009, 20:24 (Ref:2603370)   #144
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Understand there is a query with the Hockenheim round since it may clash with the Zandvoort masters exact date TBC

3rd & 5th April Oulton Park

1st & 2nd May Silverstone GP

22nd & 23rd May Magny Cours

29th & 30th May Hockenheim *

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17th & 18th July Rockingham

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Old 21 Dec 2009, 22:11 (Ref:2603419)   #145
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From the schedule above the teams, doing the masters at Zandvoort, will have to be living in hotels continuously from around May 19th to Jun 6th, so 19 nights in the euro zone, that is going to cost a lot, and of course getting the calender so late means that it will be harder to get good deals on rooms, or indeed decent rooms close to the tracks.

As Mak said earlier, "It is hard to believe that this is part of a professional racing series"

If SRO were asked to organise the proverbial social event in a brewery, would anyone trust them to do it correctly?
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Old 21 Dec 2009, 22:51 (Ref:2603444)   #146
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If SRO were asked to organise the proverbial social event in a brewery, would anyone trust them to do it correctly?
They are actually quite good at organising parties, as long as they make a profit, but perhaps that says something in itself.

One word about Zandvoort, in fairness. The organisers there go to a lot of trouble to avoid clashes with 1) F1 and 2) the DTM. After that everyone else has to juggle their dates to fit in. This is not always an easy task.
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Zandvort Masters is set to be on the 5/6th June according the the British Formula Ford calendar.
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Well, if that date is correct and it sounds about right to me, BF3 will be at Hockenheim the weekend before and it will mean that they have three meetings in Europe on successive weekends, which really won't help budgets.
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The FIA calendar also has that date (weekend beginning 4th June) for Zandvoort Masters:

http://private.fia.com/web/fia-publi...df?Openelement
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Possibly won't be as bad for budget, as three individual trips to Europe would cost about the same. Mid season road trip! Just mean everone is away for 3 weeks, but who said motor racing was good for the family..
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