Rolex 24 2010 - Page 6

Speed-King · 26 Jan 2010, 15:04 (Ref:2619701)

Entrylist is up to 44 now -just as many as in 2003. And there still might be one more DP.

**joeb** · 26 Jan 2010, 15:42 (Ref:2619724)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Entrylist is up to 44 now -just as many as in 2003. And there still might be one more DP.

Kind of amazing that you can get a team together and get registered for a 24 hour race the week of the event!

Tim Northcutt · 26 Jan 2010, 16:03 (Ref:2619735)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

Are you referring to the season full Grand-Am entry list for both DP and GT or the GT entry list for the Rolex 24 at Daytona? As of 10 am this morning, the entry list for the Rolex 24 at Daytona has 28 GTs and 14 DPs.

DK

If you go to www.lastturnclub.com and read the column posted on January 15 by A.C Guillermo, you will know what is behind the "29 Entries" number...13 of those 28 GTs are GT3s...

dxk1 · 26 Jan 2010, 17:55 (Ref:2619807)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Entrylist is up to 44 now -just as many as in 2003. And there still might be one more DP.

The 14 DPs break down as 10 Rileys, 2 Dallaras, 1 Lola and 1 Coyote as far as chasis go and 5 BMWs, 5 Fords, 3 Porsches and 1 Chevrolet (Pontiac) as far as engines go. Interesting that Ganassi Racing opted for the BMW engine rather than Ford or Porsche. In GT we have 13 Porsches, 7 Mazdas, and 2 each of Corvette, Ferrari, Pontiac, BMW and Camaro.

DK

**skycafe** · 27 Jan 2010, 00:16 (Ref:2620038)

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Originally Posted by Tim Northcutt

If you go to www.lastturnclub.com and read the column posted on January 15 by A.C Guillermo, you will know what is behind the "29 Entries" number...13 of those 28 GTs are GT3s...

Ok, now I am curious about something, which was spawned by the reading of the NASA forums link posted on the GrandAm GT thread, in which they undertake to convert a Ferrari 430 Challenge to GrandAm specs for the race. That involved cutting/removing the Challenge roll cage, which I believe would be to FIA spec, and then fabricating a GA spec cage for the Ferrari.

Does the GT3 cage differ from the Challenge cage, and how do they vary from the GA specifications? Are the GT3's in Daytona24 on some form of waver as field fillers?

Here is the link the the NASA forum postings http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic....300cd0588f4831

Speed-King · 27 Jan 2010, 00:32 (Ref:2620045)

"GT3" in Tim's post refers to Porsche 997 GT3 Cup, not an actual FIA-spec GT3 car. And since they regard the 997 GT3 Cups as field fillers in ALMS, Murphy and his buddy AC have decided to declare them as such in GA as well...

FIA GT3 cars are not legal in Grand Am. I am not sure about the specific differences in rollcar design, though. The fat "NASCAR-bars" in the doors are probably part of it.

**skycafe** · 27 Jan 2010, 00:42 (Ref:2620051)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

"GT3" in Tim's post refers to Porsche 997 GT3 Cup, not an actual FIA-spec GT3 car. And since they regard the 997 GT3 Cups as field fillers in ALMS, Murphy and his buddy AC have decided to declare them as such in GA as well...

FIA GT3 cars are not legal in Grand Am. I am not sure about the specific differences in rollcar design, though. The fat "NASCAR-bars" in the doors are probably part of it.

Ok. So these are special spec Porsche GT3 Cup cars, that doesn't vary from previous years? Previous years the Porsches were a GA spec? At one point wasn't Porsche not going to build them anymore just for GA? Economy and special GA concessions change that?

I am sorry if I am nattering, but, I do not really follow GA at all, and don't read that much 'news' about them, but Daytona is still a special place to me so I end up sort of following the 24. I quit going a few years ago, and the forcast of rain of Saturday at least will probably mean I won't go again.

Speed-King · 27 Jan 2010, 00:50 (Ref:2620053)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

Ok. So these are special spec Porsche GT3 Cup cars, that doesn't vary from previous years? Previous years the Porsches were a GA spec? At one point wasn't Porsche not going to build them anymore just for GA? Economy and special GA concessions change that?

Neither here nor there, really. They got a bodywork update in 09 to look like the Cup-S, but were pretty standardish underneath.
As they didn't sell their full run of 2009 cars, they didn't built any new GA-spec cars for 2010.

Jonerz · 27 Jan 2010, 03:18 (Ref:2620086)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

The 14 DPs break down as 10 Rileys, 2 Dallaras, 1 Lola and 1 Coyote as far as chasis go and 5 BMWs, 5 Fords, 3 Porsches and 1 Chevrolet (Pontiac) as far as engines go. Interesting that Ganassi Racing opted for the BMW engine rather than Ford or Porsche. In GT we have 13 Porsches, 7 Mazdas, and 2 each of Corvette, Ferrari, Pontiac, BMW and Camaro.

DK

You can further break the GT field down into the likes of Riley and Pratt & Miller for chassis builders.

Chris

dxk1 · 27 Jan 2010, 14:25 (Ref:2620359)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

You can further break the GT field down into the likes of Riley and Pratt & Miller for chassis builders.

Chris

Who makes the two Corvettes that will be running? I do not think they are P&M builds, or are they?

DK

Speed-King · 27 Jan 2010, 16:37 (Ref:2620417)

The 07 is a P&M chassis, but I am not sure if Leighton Reese's team turned it themselves into a Vette or if they sent it to P&M for that. The #19 is the Crawford car last run by Stevenson in last years 24 hours.

cmk · 28 Jan 2010, 04:17 (Ref:2620763)

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Originally Posted by pablocomics

Bear was saying that we´ll have 29 cars, that´s a really poor presence ..... really, really poor...

I think you missed the point of that. The bear seemed to be implying that there were 29 cars built in GARRA's vision, and the rest of the field was filled with Prep 1 GT Porsches that don't fit into GARRA's idealized tube-frame GT which, it has astutely been pointed out, are essentially re-bodyings and re-enginings of 3 basic chassis; Crawford, Riley and P&M.

I thought it was a rather witty riposte to the criticism of the GTC cars in the ALMS for being an 'attack' on Grand-Am.

Acid09 · 28 Jan 2010, 11:39 (Ref:2620939)

Interesting quote from Jimmie Johnson, appareantly he's looking into having a second career in sports cars and do Le Mans after his Sprint Cup career.

Pretty neat..

mattcat · 28 Jan 2010, 13:29 (Ref:2621009)

1.5 hours until cars are on the track! 48 hours until I leave for the track!

broadrun96 · 28 Jan 2010, 13:53 (Ref:2621021)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Interesting quote from Jimmie Johnson, appareantly he's looking into having a second career in sports cars and do Le Mans after his Sprint Cup career.

Pretty neat..

When he was on Wind Tunnel last year he made a comment toward the end of the interview that Despain took to mean he would be moving over to sportscars, possibly soon. He did seem to perk up a little in the interview when they started talking Daytona and road racing, sounded to me like he found a new challenge and is there much left for him to do in Cup racing? He could push for getting close to Pearson in second but would he want to try for 200 wins, has to be a long way off even for him.
Here's hoping Chevy hears him and wants a big ad push for the US fans and brings him to Corvette racing for LM.

courageous · 28 Jan 2010, 14:58 (Ref:2621061)

Marcel Fassler has been signed up by Audi, so Corvette have a seat availible for the longer races.

Acid09 · 28 Jan 2010, 15:28 (Ref:2621075)

That won't happen before he ends his (full-time) NASCAR career though as there`s usually a Sprint Cup race clashing with Le Mans.

I guess it depends on his future success...he might get bored after winning a fifth championship in a row

broadrun96 · 28 Jan 2010, 15:33 (Ref:2621077)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

That won't happen before he ends his (full-time) NASCAR career though as there`s usually a Sprint Cup race clashing with Le Mans.

I guess it depends on his future success...he might get bored after winning a fifth championship in a row

Have no illusions that he'll even be thinking fulltime in sportscars before 2015, just hoping anything with ties to LM will still be around by then, even if it is just the GARRA realizing GT3 cars as their GT field is a good idea for variety, and the ACO does the same.

Mal · 28 Jan 2010, 15:59 (Ref:2621084)

It cant do any harm for such a high profile driver in the states to talk about wanting to do Sportscars and Le Mans

old man · 28 Jan 2010, 16:33 (Ref:2621101)

Just looking at live timing I am puzzled at the use of the term Black Flag All Cars. Anybody know exactly what this means please? The track status is shown as yellow at the same time

HORNDAWG · 28 Jan 2010, 16:40 (Ref:2621108)

Usually means to clear the track, mid session.

L.P.

mattcat · 28 Jan 2010, 16:55 (Ref:2621119)

Hmm...MSR #6 fastest in practice 1...we've seen this before.

Where is the Beyer car?

cmk · 28 Jan 2010, 17:11 (Ref:2621127)

Interesting to look at photos of the Level 5 (NPN/Crown Royal/Whatever) team garage and see not just a bunch of former Porsche works drivers but some Porsche works polo shirts on the staff in the garage - Roland Kussmaul et al. present. They do know there is a BMW lump in those cars, right?!

cmk · 28 Jan 2010, 17:19 (Ref:2621133)

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Originally Posted by mattcat

Where is the Beyer car?

Not entered, I thought.

Speed-King · 28 Jan 2010, 17:22 (Ref:2621135)

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Originally Posted by mattcat

Where is the Beyer car?

I don't know why they don't show up on T&S, but the car is at the track:

(The orange car in the second row)

I supposse that's some kind of database error.

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