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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:11 (Ref:1668073)   #126
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:13 (Ref:1668078)   #127
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:15 (Ref:1668081)   #128
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increase? pre safety car maybe. restart should be at best 16 laps again
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:16 (Ref:1668083)   #129
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a)So far Huisman is dissapointing in the BMW
Huisman is dissapointing in Ravaglia, exactly like every driver there. It isn´t Huisman´s fault.
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:19 (Ref:1668088)   #130
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Huisman is dissapointing in Ravaglia, exactly like every driver there. It isn´t Huisman´s fault.
Bar Zanardi. Garcia was okay first two years too.
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:19 (Ref:1668090)   #131
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Huisman is dissapointing in Ravaglia, exactly like every driver there. It isn´t Huisman´s fault.
I think that's one of the or main reason.
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:23 (Ref:1668094)   #132
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Bar Zanardi. Garcia was okay first two years too.
Yes, anyway they were rarely in other official BMW drivers pace.

From live comments: " We will have a ten minute wait, I'm hearing, before the re-start, which will be a rolling start behind the safety car."
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:25 (Ref:1668096)   #133
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:28 (Ref:1668101)   #134
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 18:29 (Ref:1668102)   #135
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 19:06 (Ref:1668129)   #136
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Good drive by Sharp. I really don't get Farfus, he manages it to ALWAYS hit someone in a race and most of the time off the track. This time again with Sharp, luckely he could keep the car ON the track... What a dick.. Good fight between Coronel and Sharp!
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 19:08 (Ref:1668130)   #137
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Martin...all 24 cars finished except Huff, so the one that hit him finished!

Probably was Huisman
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 20:29 (Ref:1668194)   #138
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1 18 Salvatore TAVANO (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 18 00:57:38.172
2 15 Augusto FARFUS (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 18 00:57:38.482 + 0.310
3 24 Ryan SHARP (Honda Accord Euro R ) 18 00:57:43.155 + 4.983
4 20 Tom CORONEL (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:57:43.583 + 5.411
5 11 James THOMPSON (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:57:57.973 + 19.801
6 43 Dirk MULLER (BMW 320si ) 18 00:57:59.788 + 21.616
7 16 Gianni MORBIDELLI (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 18 00:58:01.440 + 23.268
8 3 Rickard RYDELL (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:58:03.412 + 25.240
9 10 Peter TERTING (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:58:03.754 + 25.582
10 2 Gabriele TARQUINI (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:58:05.405 + 27.233
11 9 Jordi GENE (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:58:05.747 + 27.575
12 8 Alain MENU (Chevrolet Lacetti ) 18 00:58:06.251 + 28.079
13 23 Pierre-Yves CORTHALS (Honda Accord Euro R ) 18 00:58:08.012 + 29.840
14 12 Yvan MULLER (SEAT Leon ) 18 00:58:09.064 + 30.892
15 7 Nicola LARINI (Chevrolet Lacetti ) 18 00:58:14.597 + 36.425
16 19 Maurizio CERESOLI (SEAT Toledo Cupra ) 18 00:58:14.975 + 36.803
17 4 Alessandro ZANARDI (BMW 320si ) 18 00:58:21.384 + 43.212
18 1 Andy PRIAULX (BMW 320si ) 18 00:58:22.075 + 43.903
19 42 Jorg MULLER (BMW 320si ) 18 00:58:22.228 + 44.056
20 34 Diego ROMANINI (BMW 320i ) 18 00:58:31.040 + 52.868
21 41 Duncan HUISMAN (BMW 320si ) 18 00:58:31.924 + 53.752
22 31 Stefano D'ASTE (BMW 320i ) 18 00:58:33.566 + 55.394
23 30 Luca RANGONI (BMW 320si ) 18 00:58:40.950 + 1:02.778
24 32 Oscar HIDALGO (BMW 320i ) 17 00:58:41.848 + 1 LAP
- 6 Robert HUFF (Chevrolet Lacetti ) 0 00:00:00.000 D.N.F.
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 20:57 (Ref:1668227)   #139
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Martin...all 24 cars finished except Huff, so the one that hit him finished!

Probably was Huisman
yeah... deduction brought me right back to my first guess...
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 21:01 (Ref:1668229)   #140
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Second race was entertaining as well...

Good news as far as Rob Huff is conerned is that his sister reports him sitting up in bed and ready to check out of the hospital, though the docs want him to stay in overnight for observation...

Sure rang his bell though!

Hats off to Farfus - not always the cleverest of racers but over the last 2 race weekends he's piled up a HUGE stack of points... Should have been 20 this weekend - if Morbidelli could move over to let him past, why was Tavano not asked to? Seems odd...

Anyhoo... hope you all enjoyed it, either with us on Eurosport live or by streaming video

And big kudos to Ryan Sharp for race 1 - did you SEE those trophies???
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 21:02 (Ref:1668231)   #141
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b) No live timing?
Indeed not... no internet at the track.. it fell over completely today and just expired...
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 21:06 (Ref:1668241)   #142
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Yep Martin enjoyed that coverage there were a few gaps you managed to plug nicely.

Anyone see the green flag lap of Race 2 ? Onboard behind one of the BMW's which was heating it's tyres up you could see the indentations left in the track by the rear wheels!

Seriously, do they really have Irish tarmaccer's in Central America ?
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 21:15 (Ref:1668258)   #143
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Seriously, do they really have Irish tarmaccer's in Central America ?
HELL no... no breadcrumbs and treacle cheapo council re-surfacing would have pulled up as badly as THAT... a proper tarmaccing job in the UK would have survived no problems...

What they laid on Tuesday, Lord knows... wrong stuff... wrong time... D'OH
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 23:50 (Ref:1668392)   #144
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How is it possible that Yvan Muller is driving so terrible the last few races? He went of to a flying start, but now he's only to be seen when he crashes or something. He looks to be the slowest of all the SEAT drivers.

His little incident with Zanardi was a shame for the Italian, he started on p11 and was on p6 after the first lap until that French dude came along.
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Old 31 Jul 2006, 00:23 (Ref:1668412)   #145
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first eyewitness opinion about Puebla

First of all, i'm not an basher...i'm just telling what i saw...

I'm just arriving home after spend all day at Amozoc and what i have to say...that the promoter , in this case the Abed brothers (one of them a big shark at FIA) blow up big time the event, i don't know if was visible on tv, but i identify at least 3 serious mistakes by 3 different groups of marshals during the race, the 3 incidents in questions was 3 retired car situations in which they were unable to retire the abandoned cars with the proper eficiency that those situations required, the worst of those was on race 2 with a BMW, that get manage to get trap of the gravel of the curve before the second oval corner, it was freakin frustrating to see that those guys with a pickup truck were unable to get out the car from that posicion before the race finish

The racetrack...ok the changes to the layout, pretty cool, however, don't know who the h*** order that tarmac, i could see how the surface start to break up, i know that the state of Puebla was literally put under water during the last 3 weeks with the thunderstaorms and rains they have and don't if this play a role on the surface issue

the amenities, many things get better than last year, but other that was ok, get worse...the restrooms for the people were just a freakin mess!!!

The racing...this racetrack indeed suits incredibly for touring cars...don't know if was visible on tv, the battles during the 2 races for all posicions was simply one of the coolest racing i ever see...

have to go for know...come back later with more and some pictures...

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Old 31 Jul 2006, 10:21 (Ref:1668713)   #146
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Fantastic result(s) for Alfa - N.technology with an almost ten years old touringcar!
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Old 31 Jul 2006, 11:59 (Ref:1668813)   #147
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1 15 Augusto FARFUS (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 16 00:28:42.876
2 16 Gianni MORBIDELLI (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 16 00:28:44.279 + 1.403
3 3 Rickard RYDELL (SEAT Leon ) 16 00:28:53.176 + 10.300
4 43 Dirk MULLER (BMW 320si ) 16 00:28:57.205 + 14.329
5 11 James THOMPSON (SEAT Leon ) 16 00:29:04.313 + 21.437
6 20 Tom CORONEL (SEAT Leon ) 16 00:29:06.720 + 23.844
7 1 Andy PRIAULX (BMW 320si ) 16 00:29:06.834 + 23.958
8 2 Gabriele TARQUINI (SEAT Leon ) 16 00:29:09.342 + 26.466
9 9 Jordi GENE (SEAT Leon ) 16 00:29:12.169 + 29.293
10 23 Pierre-Yves CORTHALS (Honda Accord Euro R ) 16 00:29:12.442 + 29.566
11 41 Duncan HUISMAN (BMW 320si ) 16 00:29:16.394 + 33.518
12 30 Luca RANGONI (BMW 320si ) 16 00:29:23.300 + 40.424
13 34 Diego ROMANINI (BMW 320i ) 16 00:29:31.468 + 48.592
14 32 Oscar HIDALGO (BMW 320i ) 16 00:30:10.628 + 1:27.752
15 42 Jorg MULLER (BMW 320si ) 15 00:29:51.230 + 1 LAP
16 19 Maurizio CERESOLI (SEAT Toledo Cupra ) 14 00:25:42.126 + 2 LAPS
- 10 Peter TERTING (SEAT Leon ) 11 00:20:02.986 D.N.F.
- 31 Stefano D'ASTE (BMW 320i ) 9 00:16:34.478 D.N.F.
- 7 Nicola LARINI (Chevrolet Lacetti ) 7 00:13:25.359 D.N.F.
- 24 Ryan SHARP (Honda Accord Euro R ) 5 00:09:45.037 D.N.F.
- 18 Salvatore TAVANO (Alfa Romeo 156 ) 4 00:07:23.067 D.N.F.
- 8 Alain MENU (Chevrolet Lacetti ) 4 00:07:46.112 D.N.F.
- 4 Alessandro ZANARDI (BMW 320si ) 2 00:03:50.037 D.N.F.
- 12 Yvan MULLER (SEAT Leon ) 2 00:03:50.250 D.N.F.
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Old 31 Jul 2006, 12:13 (Ref:1668828)   #148
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Drivers Championship
1 J. Thompson 49
2 A. Priaulx 46
3 A. Farfus Jr 46
4 R. Rydell 41
5 G. Tarquini 41
6 D. Müller 40
7 Y. Muller 33
8 P. Terting 32
9 J. Müller 30
10 J. Gené 24
11 G. Morbidelli 22
12 A. Menu 18
13 S. Tavano 10
14 A. Zanardi 8
15 T. Coronel 8
16 R. Sharp 6
17 R. Huff 6
18 A. Balzan 5
19 N. Larini 3

Manufacturer Championship
1 SEAT 148
2 BMW 139
3 Alfa Romeo 111
4 Chevrolet 67

Yokohama Independent Trophy
1 T. Coronel 96
2 R. Sharp 63
3 L. Rangoni 48
4 S. D'Aste 39
5 M. Ceresoli 31
6 D. Romanini 31
7 A. Balzan 25
8 P. Corthals 23
9 E. O'Brien 17
10 R. Colciago 14
11 S. Iacone 13
12 R. Romagnoli 11
13 J. Edman 10
14 L. Molo 5
15 O. Hidalgo 5
16 E. Naspetti 4
17 D. Roda 2
17 S. Valli 2
19 J. Janák 2

Yokohama Team Trophy
1 GR Asia 127
2 Proteam Motorsport 86
3 JAS Motorsport 86
4 Wiechers-Sport 53
5 DB Motorsport 25
6 SEAT Sport Italia 16
7 Zerocinque Motorsport 15
8 Scuderia La Torre 11
9 Peugeot Sport Denmark 10
10 Equipo TekProm 5
11 GDL Racing 4
12 Ceskoslovensky Motorsport 2

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Old 31 Jul 2006, 12:25 (Ref:1668841)   #149
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I found the races to be quite tame, especially the second.

Not sure if its the track layout or the nasty track surface, but the circuit doesn't seem to lend itself to creating close battles.

Bad day for the BMWs, good day for Italians...!
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I think because of the surface, no-one was willing to take the risks they usually would - and it was damn near impossible to pass someone on the inside in the corners - seeing as 90% of every car was already on the kerb!
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