March 782 - Page 6

Dan Rear · 23 Aug 2005, 14:09 (Ref:1389309)

Chris, as ever you're ahead of me, my memories were based on that AS piece! I presume Roger O is still around, is he contactable I wonder ?

driftwood · 23 Aug 2005, 14:11 (Ref:1389310)

yes he is i have tel email info

Dan Rear · 23 Aug 2005, 14:13 (Ref:1583663)

Chris, you're right re the 77B, 'cos we know Muter raced it alongside Andy a year or so later. IIRC, I've speculated before that I think it may have been based on the ex-Project 4/Hoffman 782. Can't recall where it went after Andy, though by '81, he'd modified it to look much more like a 792 as I recall.

Dan Rear · 23 Aug 2005, 15:21 (Ref:1389369)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

yes he is i have tel email info

DW, could you ask him what, if anything he recalls re this March?

driftwood · 23 Aug 2005, 16:21 (Ref:1389415)

will drag and paste all the info mentioned and mail him

Cameron Winton · 24 Aug 2005, 12:46 (Ref:1583666)

Andy Barton's 79B was not his old 77b converted. He ran both cars simultaneously fro Dave Muter and Cameron Binnie. I can't remember the 79b in 782 trim but I do remember it being described as a 78/79b. Dan is right, he modified it heavily with a 792 style nose. Don't know what happened to it.

IANHEB · 26 Aug 2005, 11:16 (Ref:1391738)

Cameron,
Does the name Colin Burbeck ring any bells with you ?.He apparantly ran a March 782 (modified sidepods) between 1986 and 1996 with a Hart 2L in Scottish/Northern England hilclimbs, and then until 1998 with a BDD.It was then bought by a friend of mine," restored" by Simon Hadfield and now resides in Cape Town.
Cheers,Ian

Dan Rear · 26 Aug 2005, 12:15 (Ref:1391784)

Name rings a bell with me, tho' as a Northern/Scots FF racer in mid-late 70s. I don't recall him in a March, anyone else ??

Chris Townsend · 27 Aug 2005, 08:53 (Ref:1392345)

Colin Birkbeck I think. Like Dan name resonates as FF1600 driver in late 70s.
Maybe did libre races up at Ingliston with it?

IANHEB · 1 Sep 2005, 11:57 (Ref:1396306)

Dan/Chris,
Many thanks,now that I have the name spelt correctly I see that he is still competing in various events in a Mitsubishi Evo.Will let you know what he recalls of the March 782 if he replies.
Ian

Steve Wilkinson · 17 Mar 2006, 16:06 (Ref:1551200)

I have just trawled through this thread to see if I could find any reference to a 782 being campaigned in hillclimbs and sprints by Martin Brockhouse. He used the car from 1987 to 1991 inclusive. He ran the car with a 1.6 BDA installed.

Can anyone confirm the chassis number of the 782 that was run by Les Edmunds? It is alledged to be the Easter Thruxton winner used by Rad Dougall.

I have 782-5 re-emerging in 1983 and 1984 with Keith Cox driving. Anyone know if this was either re-tubbed or just straighten?

I have 782-9 with Bill Morris in 1987 to 1992.

Finally I have David Franklin with 782-7 from 1979 to 1981. Did he switch at some point from -7 to -9?

driftwood · 17 Mar 2006, 16:20 (Ref:1551215)

782 Dougall Car Is Mentioned Before With Phil P
782-9 Is Ex Winklehock Car Destined For Usa When Its Finally Restored
Franklin Had 2 Cars So I Assume Yr Saying He Had Chassis 7 & 9-#9 Went To Bill

allenbrown · 28 Mar 2006, 14:44 (Ref:1563352)

Just been looking at Japanese F2 results and they really liked those 782s. Even allowing for some of their many 752s being upgraded (Japan only imported one 762 and no 772s), there still appear to have been six 782s racing in 1979:

Diatone Racing (Le Mans Company) - two cars one for Keiji Matsumoto and the other for guests
Speed Star Wheel Racing - two cars for Kunimitsu Takahashi and Naoki Nagasaka
Tomei Jidousya - for Kenji Takahashi
Masami Kuwashima
Richard Geck (maybe his 752 upgraded)

As only two 782s are shown as being sold new to Japan, this implies three or four more going second-hand. Leading contenders would be some of Ron Dennis's cars (782-1 and 782-13), some works cars (782-7 if Franklin didn't have two, and 782-8) and Jarier's Maublanc-run cars (782-11 and 782-16). This would explain why we are missing so many 782s in 1979.

Allen

Dan Rear · 28 Mar 2006, 15:13 (Ref:1563364)

Allen, I think 782-13, or the remains of it after Ingo bashed it up in the Temporada, became Andy Barton's 782/79B in 79 over here.

Alan Brown · 12 Apr 2006, 14:01 (Ref:1579472)

Having just come to this forum, these two brief observations may be appropriate.

Thruxton F2 1978 782-20 BMW Roberto Marazzi (Scuderia Carlo Benelli) and Thruxton F2 1980 782-20 BMW Oscar Pedersoli (Sanremo Racing). This, I hope, confirms an earlier post. Did Bakst use this chassis at Thruxton in 1979 or a 792?

Thruxton F2 1980 782-23 Hart Wolfgang Locher entered by British Racing Team. Presumably this was Brian Henton in some guise.

allenbrown · 12 Apr 2006, 15:36 (Ref:1579543)

Both of those very useful. Thanks.

I think I feel another summary coming on.

Dan Rear · 12 Apr 2006, 15:52 (Ref:1579554)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Brown

Having just come to this forum, these two brief observations may be appropriate.

Thruxton F2 1978 782-20 BMW Roberto Marazzi (Scuderia Carlo Benelli) and Thruxton F2 1980 782-20 BMW Oscar Pedersoli (Sanremo Racing). This, I hope, confirms an earlier post. Did Bakst use this chassis at Thruxton in 1979 or a 792?

Thruxton F2 1980 782-23 Hart Wolfgang Locher entered by British Racing Team. Presumably this was Brian Henton in some guise.

Alan/Allen (this could get v tricky!!), from memory Superhen's Team was "BFO Racing", ie British F1 Racing, a hangover from his '77 GP effort, with that dodgy '761'. Did Locher race at Thrux in 80, I'd thought he finished with F2 the year before, with the BFO 792? IIRC he had a big'un part way thru' 79, and Cocho Lopez took over the ride, or was it the other way round?

Re the Italian matters, presumably Colombo bought 782-20 from Benelli after 1978, and raced it alongside his own car thru' 79 and 80, after he'd given up on the 792, and before he got the Tolemans. I wonder if -20 was the one that ended up with the wonderful Roberto del Castello aboard.

driftwood · 12 Apr 2006, 17:05 (Ref:1579602)

"Alan/Allen (this could get v tricky!!)" Dan whats the tricky part??
the info u gave or the fact we now have to allen/alan browns on this thread!!

allenbrown · 12 Apr 2006, 17:14 (Ref:1579608)

That we now have two Alen Browns

Allen

Chris Townsend · 13 Apr 2006, 08:46 (Ref:1580164)

I vote that the two Alan/Allen Browns be given the special task of sorting out Mike Stow's and Dick Barker's BT28/29-20...

I think that 782-20 was the chassis Bakst damaged at Thruxton in 1979, and
San Remo subsequently ran him in chassis 18 at Nurburgring

Chris

Bryan Miller · 13 Apr 2006, 08:53 (Ref:1580172)

Yes, definately agree 2 x Browns allocated to sorting the mentioned Barker confusion , with or without their agreement.
Bryan.

allenbrown · 13 Apr 2006, 08:58 (Ref:1580177)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Miller

...with or without their agreement.

Which will not be forthcoming. We'd need at least a third Allan Brown if not a fourth.

Chris Townsend · 13 Apr 2006, 09:00 (Ref:1580179)

Perhaps someone would care to adopt a pseudonym - rather like Barker's
BT28-20 plate at Mallory...

chris

FUJI1000WINNER · 15 May 2006, 21:23 (Ref:1611017)

I owned chasis 782-7 in Japan. Formula 2 spec came from Giacomelli to Kenji Matsumoto who won the Japan F 2 Championship with the chasis in 79.

I drove it there in 80 finishin 5th in the championship with the best finish 3rd in March or so of 80.

The chasis was severly damaged in August of that year (roll over) and completely re-done by Kaira (former fitipaldi mechanic)

I believe the car still exists and is owned by a dentist there named shimizu
who still keeps it in F-2 spec

Loved the car

FUJI1000WINNER · 15 May 2006, 21:29 (Ref:1611025)

I should have mentioned that the 782 -7 chasis was always powered (and still is I think) by BMW m12/7 engines - Japanese versions had several builders. This one always had Matsura engines

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