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@TF110: The only manufacture that has expressed interest in using capacitors in road cars is Mazda. However the Mazda i-ELOOP system is not a hybrid drivetrain: the capacitor is only used to charge the battery. As I said earlier, only the electric motors of the TS030 might be relevant for road cars. Lithium ion batteries and plugin hybrids are the future for road cars.
The same can be said about the LMP1 diesel engines. Audi was very proud to announced that R15 and R18 engine have VTG turbos. However, VTG turbos are used in road diesel engines for ages. |
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He assumes a slightly higher thermal efficiency (32% instead of 30%) and a lot less KERS activations (60 instead of 80 during one stint). Consequently he ends up with a smaller performance advantage for the hybrid system. |
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Apart from F1, It's been obvious for a long time that we see new technical developments from racecars trickle into our everyday road cars, wether it's the more sporty models or the day to day 'A-to-B transporters'.
We see things like perforated/ventilated brakedisks,turbochargers,more reliable gearboxes,more efficient lighting, more efficient types of fuel injection, etc. I think it's quite irrelevant to argue if specific parts of specific prototypes are or are not gonna be used in our everyday roadcars. In the end, we normal folks do benefit from the efforts car manufacturers put into endurance racing. I'm very excited Toyota is taking the fight to the guys from Ingolstadt and I will be rooting for them as I am a fan of all Toyota performance cars, owning a GTfour(my second), having owned a Corolla Twincam and having driven MR2's and high power Supra's. Oh,and who was that about getting Ferrari into this discussion? Isn't that this uppedy car manufacturer that hasn't fielded a factory assault at Le Mans for over 40 years ? ....... |
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There are plenty of innovations left in electric motors. I'm pretty sure we aren't seeing large brushless motors being used yet. When this happens, effeciency will be in 90+% with huge power increases and quite a bit less weight. Just look what was happened in the model airplane world over the last 7-8 years. We are just at the beginning.
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Is the open door/window on the car a throwback feature to the older LMP900 cars? I just noticed the Bentley Speed 8 has a similar opening on it's window.
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29 Jan 2012, 20:57 (Ref:3018620) | #1486 | |
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The 908 had a similar concept, didn't it?
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97216 contains the full interview.
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If this was true then why on earth did they choose Nakajima? the kid had no pace when he kept it together in F1 and was slow in SGT.i'd say it was wrong putting him in the Petronas Tom's car because he was slower than Waikisaka and slowed the team down |
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I'd say he improved a lot. He cut back on the incidents, and his race craft improved. Not sure on his pace though.
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And he's Japanese.
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well, following this way of thinking, we won't never see mcnish on a toyota race car.... again.
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Kazuki had loads of pace at Williams, he just kept throwing it off the track when in promising positions. Given a bit of consistency he'll be great in sportscars.
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Toyota are deadly serious, they're not going to hire an also-ran driver, he showed real potential as per his finish in Nippon, and real potential in SGT given the Lexus is a old and slow car. |
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I notice on the Toyota LMP1 press releases they mention who the hybrid parts suppliers are, I know what Denso and the Ultracap supplier are all about but the company that supply the motor-generator system on the front end was a new one to me...."Aisin AW"....I'm thinking the layout would be something like what Williams did on the front of the GT3 porsche flywheel thingy, whereby it looks like a steering rack on steroids........I had a google about and found this link below, which looks real interesting, as the whole Aisin AW motor-generator contraption is based in the wheel hub........god knows if this is actually on the LMP1 car???......just looked at the front wheel images on mikes site and I will be surprised if its all hiding behind the front brake disc!!.....one to look out for me thinks......keep em peeled folks!
http://www.aisin-aw.co.jp/en/product.../ev/index.html . |
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