BTCC BTCC 2021 - Page 65

Alfisti · 15 Jan 2021, 11:23 (Ref:4029196)

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Originally Posted by mprmke

Plato raving about how good the new GR Yaris is on Twitter (I know several people who have bought one..... DO believe the hype!)

Does that add any fuel to the fire of the odd Plato/Speedworks rumour I’ve seen flying round?

Nah, I don't believe so.

Remember, Jason has several hats and those include media work - driving and reviewing road cars is very much something he does.

The GR Yaris is extremely good to drive, but has compromises. I wouldn't want one as my daily driver, but many (younger and less achy people) will. Will sell only a tiny amount vs how many Fiesta STs Ford shift, which is sad as it is very good.

I never rule anything out though, so although there is a contract with PMR who is to say one or both parties haven't ended it, amicably or otherwise. I do doubt this, I do not know of JP ever walking away from a contract ever.

Millvi · 15 Jan 2021, 12:10 (Ref:4029207)

Smiley to stay with Excelr8 is today’s news. No great surprise in that announcement.

S griffin · 15 Jan 2021, 12:43 (Ref:4029213)

That’s good, gives them continuity and Smiley is a safe pair of hands

crmalcolm · 15 Jan 2021, 13:30 (Ref:4029222)

In the true spirit of this thread, linking many unrelated points to reach a speculated drive for 2021:

Matt Neal has stated that
- he may, at some point in the future, step down from driving.
- his son would only drive if the commercial deal was right.
- he has worked on securing a driver for Shedden in recent months.
- Yuasa (and Halfords) have increased their commitment to TD (as of Aug 20).

MN posting in relation to Yuasa's Oddballs campaign has been suggested as further confirmation of less Honda support commercially.

Shedden was appointed a brand ambassador for GS Batteries (a Yuasa brand) in Sep 20.
Shedden's recent social media activity has been actively engaged with by Cammish.
Shedden has recently promoted the Oddballs campaign as part of his GS battery ambassadorship.

SO putting that all together - Shedden will be partnering Cammish in 2021, with one car entered as Halfords Yuasa and the other entered as Halfords GS.

Robshillito1990 · 15 Jan 2021, 14:40 (Ref:4029243)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

In the true spirit of this thread, linking many unrelated points to reach a speculated drive for 2021:

Matt Neal has stated that
- he may, at some point in the future, step down from driving.
- his son would only drive if the commercial deal was right.
- he has worked on securing a driver for Shedden in recent months.
- Yuasa (and Halfords) have increased their commitment to TD (as of Aug 20).

MN posting in relation to Yuasa's Oddballs campaign has been suggested as further confirmation of less Honda support commercially.

Shedden was appointed a brand ambassador for GS Batteries (a Yuasa brand) in Sep 20.
Shedden's recent social media activity has been actively engaged with by Cammish.
Shedden has recently promoted the Oddballs campaign as part of his GS battery ambassadorship.

SO putting that all together - Shedden will be partnering Cammish in 2021, with one car entered as Halfords Yuasa and the other entered as Halfords GS.

I also think this is the case as he's now also posting about yuasas check your balls campaign on Instagram.

Alfisti · 15 Jan 2021, 15:10 (Ref:4029250)

I still do wonder if another TBL will be "used" by Dynamics. Do not know if this is possible, just speculating. Could Lord Gow have released a "manufacturer entry" TBL to Speedworks for the extra car? (again don't think he has). Just developing the conversation...

Will also add JP and MN interview JP looked forward to racing with Matt again; Matt said nothing to indicate this would not be a thing.

AnnoyedMoose · 15 Jan 2021, 15:24 (Ref:4029255)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

I still do wonder if another TBL will be "used" by Dynamics. Do not know if this is possible, just speculating. Could Lord Gow have released a "manufacturer entry" TBL to Speedworks for the extra car? (again don't think he has). Just developing the conversation...

According to the recent press releases the new Speedworks TBL came from the AMD/Motorbase merger.

Steel Wheels · 15 Jan 2021, 15:52 (Ref:4029259)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

In the true spirit of this thread, linking many unrelated points to reach a speculated drive for 2021:

Matt Neal has stated that
- he may, at some point in the future, step down from driving.
- his son would only drive if the commercial deal was right.
- he has worked on securing a driver for Shedden in recent months.
- Yuasa (and Halfords) have increased their commitment to TD (as of Aug 20).

MN posting in relation to Yuasa's Oddballs campaign has been suggested as further confirmation of less Honda support commercially.

Shedden was appointed a brand ambassador for GS Batteries (a Yuasa brand) in Sep 20.
Shedden's recent social media activity has been actively engaged with by Cammish.
Shedden has recently promoted the Oddballs campaign as part of his GS battery ambassadorship.

SO putting that all together - Shedden will be partnering Cammish in 2021, with one car entered as Halfords Yuasa and the other entered as Halfords GS.

I do think that things have changed commercially at TD& might have been why Rowobo was in talks with them. Still think Matt’s preference to to race 1 more season. It has been stated elsewhere that Flash would only return with TD, so maybe pencil him in for 2022 🤣

Robshillito1990 · 15 Jan 2021, 16:16 (Ref:4029263)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I still do wonder if another TBL will be "used" by Dynamics. Do not know if this is possible, just speculating. Could Lord Gow have released a "manufacturer entry" TBL to Speedworks for the extra car? (again don't think he has). Just developing the conversation...

Will also add JP and MN interview JP looked forward to racing with Matt again; Matt said nothing to indicate this would not be a thing.

They could make the argument that they need 3 cars to compete against the likes of WSR and Laser Tools now so probably not out of the question

Jiiiiiiim · 15 Jan 2021, 16:23 (Ref:4029267)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

They could make the argument that they need 3 cars to compete against the likes of WSR and Laser Tools now so probably not out of the question

The spanner in the works on this scenario is from the quotes in the TBL allocation press release of Lord Gow saying TOCA decided to retain 3 TBL’s in line with their aim of reducing the grid size over time!

I can just hear the cries of favouritism towards Dynamic’s if they then got an extra TBL. My understanding was once the list was published for the year that was it, allocation done.

Nothing stopping another team letting them run under one of theirs, but it looks like there is no space or appetite for that at present.

VIVA GT · 15 Jan 2021, 16:57 (Ref:4029283)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

The spanner in the works on this scenario is from the quotes in the TBL allocation press release of Lord Gow saying TOCA decided to retain 3 TBL’s in line with their aim of reducing the grid size over time!

I can just hear the cries of favouritism towards Dynamic’s if they then got an extra TBL. My understanding was once the list was published for the year that was it, allocation done.

Nothing stopping another team letting them run under one of theirs, but it looks like there is no space or appetite for that at present.

With regard to the favouritism comment I would have thought that due to their history in The BTCC, Dynamics would be the most deserving team to receive such a thing (and no, I am not a T D fan - far from it!)

Alfisti · 15 Jan 2021, 16:59 (Ref:4029285)

OK, seems pretty clear.

So, coronavirus hangs around, no spectators allowed, Mr Weaver doesn't run a TBL or perhaps two.

MN calling AW?

Evantra · 15 Jan 2021, 17:08 (Ref:4029288)

https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...721129987?s=21

HARD continue on their quest to run 32 cars in the BTCC next year...

redshoes · 15 Jan 2021, 17:21 (Ref:4029293)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...721129987?s=21

HARD continue on their quest to run 32 cars in the BTCC next year...

It's a long term investment plan. Hoover up any unused cars for peanuts; stick them in a warehouse; wait 20+ years for them to become highly desirable classics; sell them off for huge sums to eager collectors. Ker-ching!

jsmee · 15 Jan 2021, 17:27 (Ref:4029295)

Thats a Merc isnt it?

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Daverb · 15 Jan 2021, 18:02 (Ref:4029306)

Gordon did a video promoting GS leisure batteries towards the start of last year so I don’t think him doing the ball promotion means much for a BTCC drive.

I hope you are right though as Cammish + Shedden would be some team.

medius · 15 Jan 2021, 18:10 (Ref:4029311)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

It's a long term investment plan. Hoover up any unused cars for peanuts; stick them in a warehouse; wait 20+ years for them to become highly desirable classics; sell them off for huge sums to eager collectors. Ker-ching!

80 grand apiece isn't exactly peanuts for a man who was desperately scrabbling for cash inside the last decade. In fact the whole Team Hard funding source (activities) is a whole separate murky topic according to some motorsport sources.

thetool · 15 Jan 2021, 18:16 (Ref:4029312)

There's past precedent when it comes to teams with unusual funding in the BTCC.

VXDave · 15 Jan 2021, 18:29 (Ref:4029315)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...721129987?s=21

HARD continue on their quest to run 32 cars in the BTCC next year...

That just made me LOL 😆 😂 🤣

porsche962fan · 15 Jan 2021, 18:42 (Ref:4029317)

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Originally Posted by medius

is a whole separate murky topic according to some motorsport sources.

they are all little children compared to the 70s-80s IMSA days (international marijuana smuggling association) or Vic Lee

aland · 15 Jan 2021, 20:08 (Ref:4029324)

vic was small fry compared to others

Alfisti · 15 Jan 2021, 20:45 (Ref:4029328)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...721129987?s=21

HARD continue on their quest to run 32 cars in the BTCC next year...

34 mate, Tony's racing number. It'll be a 34 car field in the #TGTCC. Needs more letters in that acronym, way way not long enough!

Evantra · 15 Jan 2021, 21:28 (Ref:4029332)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

Thats a Merc isnt it?

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Yeah, tagged #completeset so the ex-Moffat Merc I assume.

Tja · 16 Jan 2021, 10:09 (Ref:4029401)

How many of these cars can still be run though? They're building 5 new cars at HARD this winter so have most of these shells been cannibalised for their NGTC kit?

andyjr0999 · 16 Jan 2021, 10:43 (Ref:4029406)

With all the comments surrounding wasted driver seats and AG wanting to reduce grid sizes, has anyone discussed the possibility in the future of a points based entry system into the championship from feeder series?

I would much rather see a grid of 20 top drivers on merit than a grid of 29 where the additional 9 may as well be anyone in this forum.

It seems by a number of comments that this approach would be welcomed?

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