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What baffles me (as well as the rest of it) is where all this extra freight is coming from. We will not be suddenly importing or exporting hugely increased volumes because there is no deal. The more likely scenario is that customs delays will create lengthy queues on both sides of the channel, and no amount of extra space on boats is going to address that.
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I believe that the thinking behind the idea is that by spreading the movement (i.e. spreading the misery!) amongst more ports that it will stop - or possibly lessen - any potential bottlenecks at Dover and Calais. I sort of understand the reasoning, and if contingency planning hadn't been put in place, the government would have received yet another kicking for not thinking ahead! |
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DFDS were offering attractive prices for freight bookings on their little known Newhaven-Dieppe service in 2017, but for me, the road route to Newhaven was reason enough not to take them up on the offer! Maybe in 2019 the crossing will be of interest to more people....
I see that Britney are also supposed to be adding extra crossings from Poole to Cherbourg as part of the government deal. Most of my journeys involve Portsmouth, so I’m just hoping that the port doesn’t get messed up. It already struggles if more than one boat is unloading at the same time! |
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Should there be a decision to have a second referendum on leaving the EU, I wonder how many people on both sides of the argument would vote now.
Would the protracted, and 'nebulous' negotiations persuade Leavers to change their mind? Would the cavalier attitude of the EU Bureaucracy cause a change of heart in Remainers? Would the Sunny Uplands look different to either side of the argument/ Brighter than the Remainers thought or cloudier than the Leavers hoped. I doubt a second go would settle matters either way, and personally think it a betrayal of democracy, but it makes one think. Well it does me, and I would still vote Leave. Well it is 2019, and we need to keep the discussion going. |
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I sadly suspect you are correct.
Edit: Checked and can find nobody I recognise. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10709921 Last edited by Peter Mallett; 1 Jan 2019 at 14:09. |
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Similarly the one I heard yesterday about Mr Farage's application for German nationality being turned down, but his children got it so they will be able to get away from him easier! |
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The biggest reason brexiteers don't want a second vote of any nature is their majority is dead. Hundreds of thousands of over 70's a year pushing up daisies. Whilst the number of young people Now eligible to vote has gone up in similar numbers, 75% of them remainers. Even my sons school class at the age of 11 voted 90% remain (a few of them had fingers in noses and didn't put their hand up)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8541971.html I think we're all agreed it's the most divicisive thing to happen In all our lifetimes and goes well beyond party politics ( red and blue are equally inept at this ) I don't believe a second vote is a betrayal of democracy, that's just a few papers bleating at you. Plenty of civilised nations have done it, successfully. A no deal is a constitutional change surely? Therefore should it not have a super majority? Either way we were all lied to and no one quite knew what was genuinely on offer. We are now being taken down a dark alley by an unelected careerist turncoat. As long as several million people continue to be hoodwinked by daily rags which are little more than funded fascist propaganda, the future remains extremely uncertain. Quote:
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This 'young v old' theme keeps cropping up every now and then and like a lot of the on-going Brexit debate isn't exactly illuminating of the issues. Perhaps more of the young people now up in arms about Brexit should have bothered to vote. Quoting from the above article:
'YouGov found that young people who did not vote in the 2016 referendum are particularly supportive of calls for another poll. Among under-25s who did not vote in 2016 but would be certain to do so in a new referendum, 82 per cent said they would back Remain'. So perhaps they should have voted in the first place. |
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Gary, I think the point Joe is making is that just as a lot of 'oldies' who voted are now no longer with us, similarly, a lot of new young people are now of voting age.
I am a tad concerned that we are getting away from the subject of Simon's original post however, particularly since this dreadfully divisive subject has managed to also infiltrate itself into Ian's chat thread. |
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Young people are guilty of not voting in much larger numbers. My opinion is voting should be law, as in Australia.
As far as Simons original post . . . .if I renew my license to International C, and either current option happens . . . .will I be allowed to race on the continent with it? |
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For the record, despite being from the older generation (although not of pensionable age) I voted remain - but it was a close call. As for the debate on this thread - it may be away from Simon's original post but I've found it quite interesting, as is the one on the Delta threads. A largely friendly discussion about a serious point. |
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Gary, good points, well made!
Mike, the 'new' Delta thread is so far devoid of it so yes, maybe! |
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Did an International license exists pre 1974? I was only 3 with a flagrant disregard for the law on my trike, or in my pedal car beach buggy!
Voting turn outs are poor full stop, the young are more guilty for sure, but the whole system is broken. Not just Brexit but politics in general. |
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Additionally there's already been a "people's vote", otherwise known as a General Election and as far as I am aware the only party to openly back remain at the last election was the Lib Dems. That worked well didn't it? But then I suppose there weren't enough young voters to back them. It's very likely to be an academic problem anyway. The financial news for the Eurozone is becoming seriously iffy. It's not a divisive subject if people treat it sensibly and before spouting the usual trite stories about age etc. they actually looked at the arguments for and/against. The bus thing is typical it was £350m per day(?) and we can use that to help the NHS. Not £350m per day to go to the NHS. But words get twisted to suit an argument. Nothing that I've seen in my experience of working all around the world can convince me that the EU is a good thing. All it is is a European version of China, only they do it better. |
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