ILMC/ALMS Round 1 - Sebring - 13-19 March 2011 - Page 7

**skycafe** · 15 Mar 2011, 01:58 (Ref:2845916)

The Panoz is so weirdly tall, which seems to add to the narrow look.

**joeb** · 15 Mar 2011, 02:07 (Ref:2845919)

I can't find which thread the discussion about older cars and fins was, so I'll just say it here: The Level 5 coupe has a fin. I thought this was a new 2010 car and didn't need a fin. Anybody have more insight?

profec291 · 15 Mar 2011, 03:15 (Ref:2845929)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Thats funny, I had the exact same thought!
and why didn't the camera man back up a little to get the entire front row in the picture?

edit: also doesn't the Abruzzi look narrow?

The ALMS Facebook page has the better class photo (all cars in the frame).

pdxracefan · 15 Mar 2011, 03:53 (Ref:2845936)

As always this is early days. and noone is showing anything yet. It will only get more interesting each day during the week.

pdxracefan · 15 Mar 2011, 03:55 (Ref:2845937)

We'll be on the mound at Gurney Curve (turn 6) all weekend. Plus a few other places I'm sure...

pdxracefan · 15 Mar 2011, 03:57 (Ref:2845939)

And, it'll get really interesting on Saturday, around 10:30.

Victor_RO · 15 Mar 2011, 05:02 (Ref:2845945)

Pinch me, I'm dreaming, I see several pictures of the Panoz running around!

Audi Racer · 15 Mar 2011, 05:51 (Ref:2845947)

sheesh that panoz is ugly. But the question is...is it slow? lol

picchiofan · 15 Mar 2011, 06:23 (Ref:2845949)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

sheesh that panoz is ugly. But the question is...is it slow? lol

2 seconds off the pace of the GTC cars, about 7 seconds off the pace of the leaders in GT2.

So, yea, it's slow.

Fogelhund · 15 Mar 2011, 11:09 (Ref:2846078)

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Originally Posted by picchiofan

2 seconds off the pace of the GTC cars, about 7 seconds off the pace of the leaders in GT2.

So, yea, it's slow.

Which really doesn't make a great deal of sense to be that far off the pace. The underlying chassis is pretty proven.

chernaudi · 15 Mar 2011, 11:47 (Ref:2846094)

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Oh and if someone can tell us how the ARX-01e looks under acceleration compared to the various other front runners... Is it making up time in the corners or on the straights? There's a pic of it between an R15 and a 908 on EI and it really made me want to be there!

I think that based on the air restrictor formula for new and old diesel LMP1s and the fact that the new aero and opened up air restrictor for the HPD that the cars should be fairly equal in all areas now. The Audi R15, Oreca Pug 908 and the new factory Peugeot 908s may have a bit of a torque advantage over the HPD engine, but no where near as immense as in past years.

Also, the Audi R18 (not at Sebring) the AMR-One (not at Sebring), the HPD ARX-01e and the new Peugeot 908 have to currently run at 900kgs, while the Audi R15 and the Oreca 908 have to run at 930kgs as a result of the 2010 homoligation requirements. For the Audis to be on the pace of the 908's morning times with that extra weight shows us why Audi have tested at Sebring with the R15 back in Jan., and with the speed that the HPD has shown, is also a testiment to the work that they've done.

TerribleWone · 15 Mar 2011, 15:14 (Ref:2846210)

I think the most interesting story for me this year is the question of how close that HPD will be to the oil burners. Rolling back the clock to 2009 they were driving a car that had just a bit more power but had to deal with the extra rolling resistance of big front tires and a pretty high downforce setup. The Audi and Pug were way up on power at the time so it was not surprising that they blitzed the acura. Now in 2011 HPD is back with a car that looks far more slippery and has lost not a boat load of power. Audi and Pug have had some drastic changes in power so perhaps the HPD will stand a better chance.

**joeb** · 15 Mar 2011, 15:16 (Ref:2846212)

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Originally Posted by TerribleWone

I think the most interesting story for me this year is the question of how close that HPD will be to the oil burners. Rolling back the clock to 2009 they were driving a car that had just a bit more power but had to deal with the extra rolling resistance of big front tires and a pretty high downforce setup. The Audi and Pug were way up on power at the time so it was not surprising that they blitzed the acura. Now in 2011 HPD is back with a car that looks far more slippery and has lost not a boat load of power. Audi and Pug have had some drastic changes in power so perhaps the HPD will stand a better chance.

Don't forget Dixon put the ARX-02 on the Sebring pole in 09 against the diesels. So there is hope!

TerribleWone · 15 Mar 2011, 15:34 (Ref:2846219)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Don't forget Dixon put the ARX-02 on the Sebring pole in 09 against the diesels. So there is hope!

Yea that was awesome and it made be very happy until the first turn. I seem to recall the Pug and Audi steamrolled by as if the ARX-02 was sitting still. None the less I think this car has a even better chance of really pushing the oil burners. Additionally we all know that the engine and gearbox is very proven, heck so is the chassis. I hope Michelin put up enough money for highcroft to run the season... I want to see this car at mostport.

Simmi · 15 Mar 2011, 15:37 (Ref:2846221)

Session 3 is GO!

arakis · 15 Mar 2011, 15:41 (Ref:2846225)

whats up with the red flag

Simmi · 15 Mar 2011, 15:42 (Ref:2846226)

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Originally Posted by arakis

whats up with the red flag

Someone appears to have had issues on an out lap. Not sure who yet.

Audi Racer · 15 Mar 2011, 15:45 (Ref:2846228)

anyone else notice simon pagenaud has yet to drive the HPD

MihokS5 · 15 Mar 2011, 15:45 (Ref:2846229)

Where are you guys getting timing from?

MihokS5 · 15 Mar 2011, 15:47 (Ref:2846231)

nevermind-I got it

gwyllion · 15 Mar 2011, 15:49 (Ref:2846233)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

anyone else notice simon pagenaud has yet to drive the HPD

Not according to Brabs:

Quote:

Myself, Simon and Marino have all driven today and we all realise the potential of the car.

source: http://www.highcroftracing.com/news/...ng-update.html

Simmi · 15 Mar 2011, 15:51 (Ref:2846234)

Yeah the listed drivers in T&S will not always be accurate for these test days.

Audi Racer · 15 Mar 2011, 15:52 (Ref:2846235)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah the listed drivers in T&S will not always be accurate for these test days.

Ok thanks i thought as much

Audi Racer · 15 Mar 2011, 15:53 (Ref:2846237)

i think Jaime Melo wants to play in GT2. he;s going very quickly now. monday im sure they only tried to see tire wear becasue their best was a 2.04.

Simmi · 15 Mar 2011, 15:54 (Ref:2846238)

As Murphy has just spotted on twitter, the first lap of the week for Jaguar.

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