ELMS ELMS (was LMS) 2012 discussion - Page 7

Coach Ep · 24 Dec 2011, 16:10 (Ref:3003944)

No clashes but 1 or 2 tight transfers, Brno-> Interlagos and possibly Portimao-> China will be challenging:

March 17 - Sebring - WEC/ALMS
April 1 - Paul Ricard - ELMS
April 14 - Long Beech - ALMS
May 5 - Spa - WEC
May 12 - Laguna Seca - ALMS
May 20 - Zolder - ELMS
June 3 - Le Mans Testday
June 16/17 Le Mans 24 - WEC
July 7 - Lime Rock - ALMS
July 15 - Donington Park - ELMS
July 22 - Mosport - ALMS
August 4 - Mid Ohio - ALMS
August 18 - Road America - ALMS
August 26 - Silverstone - WEC
September 1 - Baltimore - ALMS
September 9 - Brno - ELMS
September 15 - Interlagos - WEC
TBA - TBA - ALMS
September 29 - Bahrain - WEC
October 14 - Fuji - WEC
October 20 - Petit Le Mans - ALMS
November 4 - Portimao - ELMS
November TBA - China - WEC

rich07 · 25 Dec 2011, 01:13 (Ref:3004076)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Also, someone (forget who) said that JMB was looking to run a Ferrari presumably, but I have not read anything official about those plans.

That wouldnt surprise me, dont JMB have a fleet of Challenge cars?

FstrthnU · 27 Dec 2011, 21:27 (Ref:3004638)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-9134.html
Oasis Motorsport will enter a Ferrari F430 in the GTC class

rich07 · 27 Dec 2011, 22:05 (Ref:3004651)

Havent heard anything about Farnbachers plans for next year, has anyone heard anything?

Salamus · 28 Dec 2011, 01:27 (Ref:3004691)

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Havent heard anything about Farnbachers plans for next year, has anyone heard anything?

I'm pretty sure they have sold their 458 and I don't think they plan on racing in ELMS next year, only GT Masters and Nurburgring 24 I presume

GT-Eins · 28 Dec 2011, 05:03 (Ref:3004710)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Havent heard anything about Farnbachers plans for next year, has anyone heard anything?

There might be an ELMS-Programm for Farnbacher - but in a different class than in the previous years.

As for the F458 Italia I´m not sure wether this has to be ruled out also.

AGD · 28 Dec 2011, 07:01 (Ref:3004714)

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Originally Posted by GT-Eins

There might be an ELMS-Programm for Farnbacher - but in a different class than in the previous years.

As for the F458 Italia I´m not sure wether this has to be ruled out also.

Wasn't there a rumor about a new tire company getting involved in LMP2? Could that be Hankook? With Farnbacher perhaps? I thought it was a WEC rumor, but who knows. I barely remember this rumor.

The Badger · 28 Dec 2011, 16:33 (Ref:3004870)

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Originally Posted by GT-Eins

There might be an ELMS-Programm for Farnbacher - but in a different class than in the previous years

I reckon they have bought a HPD-03a !!!

Rodger Davies · 28 Dec 2011, 19:51 (Ref:3004917)

I would assume that if that's the case it won't be the ELMS they're planning on; I think the 03a is P1 only.

The Badger · 28 Dec 2011, 22:17 (Ref:3004947)

Im getting so confused with all these differant HPD chassis numbers .

NelisB · 29 Dec 2011, 01:52 (Ref:3005017)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Im getting so confused with all these differant HPD chassis numbers .

Should be a 03b because that's a LMP2.

rich07 · 29 Dec 2011, 10:13 (Ref:3005083)

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Originally Posted by GT-Eins

There might be an ELMS-Programm for Farnbacher - but in a different class than in the previous years.

As for the F458 Italia I´m not sure wether this has to be ruled out also.

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I reckon they have bought a HPD-03a !!!

Whatever alphabetized Acura they would run (hey Im confused myself) would be entertaining to watch in the hands of those young guns Simonsen and Farnbacher. And the car would look good in Hankook livery eh?

NaBUru38 · 3 Jan 2012, 14:42 (Ref:3006763)

Falken?

The Badger · 3 Jan 2012, 17:03 (Ref:3006809)

Naa , their running a new 997 .

Simmi · 6 Jan 2012, 17:45 (Ref:3008259)

Is there a provisional entrylist knocking around anywhere for the ELMS? The only P2 entries I can think of are Greaves and Pecom.

JAG · 6 Jan 2012, 17:53 (Ref:3008265)

RLR, Boutsen, RML, OAK and Baily in P2, Manthey in GTE?

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and the lack of invites

I think the top two finsihers in P2 and GTE get an invite, plus some deal for the LMPC winners.

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 17:55 (Ref:3008268)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Is there a provisional entrylist knocking around anywhere for the ELMS? The only P2 entries I can think of are Greaves and Pecom.

I think I heard somewhere some time back that Extreme Limite AM Paris was looking to come back with the Norma. Or at least someone is planning on using the Norma. There is the Bailey rumor as well. Well, put all that together plus the few GTC rumors and I think you have the ELMS entry list at the moment! I'm sure some LMPCs and more GTCs will come out of the woodwork, but teams may not want to overcommit given the 20 car issue (it would probably help if some teams announced their programs, chicken and egg I guess) and the lack of invites.

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 18:02 (Ref:3008272)

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Originally Posted by JAG

I think the top two finsihers in P2 and GTE get an invite, plus some deal for the LMPC winners.

It's kind of odd to be quoted before my post! But, anyway, I was talking about lack of the ability to get invited/chosen in 2012. As for 2013, yes there are auto-invites, but they are conditional. I think a team has to do a full-season of racing in 2013 in order to get to use their auto-invite. Or something like that.

lms · 6 Jan 2012, 18:16 (Ref:3008281)

would be good to hear what are the smaller lmp2 teams are up to - WR, Rangoni, rlr, extreme limite, rml.....

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 18:19 (Ref:3008282)

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Originally Posted by lms

would be good to hear what are the smaller lmp2 teams are up to - WR, Rangoni, rlr, extreme limite, rml.....

WR - angry at the ACO
Rangoni - ?
RLR - Rumored to be interested in the WEC, no decision yet AFAIK
RML - Rumored to be interested in the WEC, no decision yet AFAIK
Extreme Limite AM Paris - Rumored to be interested in the ELMS, no decision yet AFAIK

Victor_RO · 6 Jan 2012, 18:20 (Ref:3008284)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Rangoni - ?

Rangoni has probably been absorbed by MIK Corse. Or at least their car has been.

Simmi · 6 Jan 2012, 18:20 (Ref:3008285)

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Originally Posted by AGD

It's kind of odd to be quoted before my post! But, anyway, I was talking about lack of the ability to get invited/chosen in 2012. As for 2013, yes there are auto-invites, but they are conditional. I think a team has to do a full-season of racing in 2013 in order to get to use their auto-invite. Or something like that.

Yeah that was the impression I was under, that you were tied to the series for another year. If they want to be any kind of feeder series that doesn't work really, especially when a team could just up and leave to the WEC and gain entry that way. If they won again the next season would they be required to stay again?

What about TDS - is that a team?

Victor_RO · 6 Jan 2012, 18:25 (Ref:3008289)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

What about TDS - is that a team?

Yes. Plans for 2012 - ELMS and Le Mans, drivers confirmed so far - Pierre Thiriet (who also brings the main sponsorship to the team) and Mathias Beche, both kept from last year, car - same as last year (Oreca-Nissan).

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-9081.html

Simmi · 6 Jan 2012, 18:34 (Ref:3008297)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Yes. Plans for 2012 - ELMS and Le Mans, drivers confirmed so far - Pierre Thiriet (who also brings the main sponsorship to the team) and Mathias Beche, both kept from last year, car - same as last year (Oreca-Nissan).

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-9081.html

Thanks Victor_RO. Good luck to them. They are one of the squads waiting nervously to see if they are granted an entry. I'd say they are worthy of one.

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 18:35 (Ref:3008298)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah that was the impression I was under, that you were tied to the series for another year. If they want to be any kind of feeder series that doesn't work really, especially when a team could just up and leave to the WEC and gain entry that way. If they won again the next season would they be required to stay again?

I'm not sure. What if a team changes classes in 2013? Or if they go to the ALMS? Do they still get an auto-invite in their 2012 class? Or 2013 one? Who knows. I think we're getting ahead of ourselves when we talk about ELMS 2013. I'm not sure if they'll even get though 2012.

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Yes. Plans for 2012 - ELMS and Le Mans, drivers confirmed so far - Pierre Thiriet (who also brings the main sponsorship to the team) and Mathias Beche, both kept from last year, car - same as last year (Oreca-Nissan).

They don't have an auto-invite, do they? In which case, good luck on the Le Mans goals. Boutsen did not get an entry last year in more favorable conditions and they were defending LMS FLM champions.

FWIW, it seems like Guess Racing Europ might still be around. I'm guessing the WEC would reject their entry if they tried to go down that route. Their only choice might be to enter ELMS P2 (or ALMS). Don't hold your breath waiting for that one.

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