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Old 15 Mar 2005, 04:20 (Ref:1252141)   #151
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I thought Gavin was to make his debut in 1995 with the pacific team but couldnt obtain a superlicence or something and therefore missed out ?

is that correct , and didnt he go on to be the safety car driver or something ?
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 06:23 (Ref:1252166)   #152
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I thought Gavin was to make his debut in 1995 with the pacific team but couldnt obtain a superlicence or something and therefore missed out ?
Yes, there was some sort of mix up which prevented him driving in Adelaide.

Team shareholder Bertrand Gachot stepped back into the cockpit for what proved to be Pacific's last Grand Prix.

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is that correct , and didnt he go on to be the safety car driver or something ?

Yes he did.

Now a sportscar driver in a Chevrolet Corvette ALMS GT.
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 07:27 (Ref:1252179)   #153
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I'm not sure how many of you have seen this site, but there's a wealth of data on the subject of this thread. Scan the teams sections, focusing on the weaker ones... non-starters, garagistes etc...

http://www.gpracing.net192.com/teams.cfm
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 13:24 (Ref:1252377)   #154
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 13:51 (Ref:1252414)   #155
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Not only is Gachot probably the only driver to miss F1 races through being in jail, and put tonnes of his own money into Pacific (who's other drivers were all atrocious) he's also directly responsible for Michael Schumacher getting his chance. That alone qualifies him for hatred.
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 13:57 (Ref:1252461)   #156
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I don't hate him martin. But I do think he was stupid.
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 14:01 (Ref:1252466)   #157
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Old 15 Mar 2005, 14:35 (Ref:1252488)   #158
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Peter, I know this is not the place for this... but I can't help myself in asking... where do you get the time to post so much and at the same time find the hours to prepare the coolest Capri in the UK ? Second... for the real Capri-o-file what is the significance of 24.01.1969 ?

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Peter, I know this is not the place for this... but I can't help myself in asking... where do you get the time to post so much and at the same time find the hours to prepare the coolest Capri in the UK ? Second... for the real Capri-o-file what is the significance of 24.01.1969 ?

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Old 16 Mar 2005, 00:17 (Ref:1253022)   #161
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Not only is Gachot probably the only driver to miss F1 races through being in jail, and put tonnes of his own money into Pacific
I never knew that Gachot funded Pacific... wow, you learn something new every day. I thought it was put together by Keith Wiggins of F2/F3000 fame [and now with Herdez racing or something in the States]. Was Gachot well heeled before he came into F1 or did he use his earnings from F1 in this 'investment' ? How much did he put in ?

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Old 16 Mar 2005, 02:41 (Ref:1253070)   #162
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Norberto Fontana.

Mazzacane has to be pretty close to the mix as well.
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Old 17 Mar 2005, 22:08 (Ref:1254625)   #163
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Got to be Deletraz or Yoong.
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 00:12 (Ref:1254713)   #165
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lol. Best thread EVER! I call it a celebration of mediocrity. No...wait, Mediocre would be a compliment for these guys!
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Actually, the irony is that very few of those so far mentioned are anything other than good racing drivers. Out of their depth in F1, perhaps, but bad drivers? Hardly.
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Norberto Fontana.

Mazzacane has to be pretty close to the mix as well.
Since his definitive return to Argentina, Norberto Fontana is among the best Touring Car drivers in Argentinean motorsport. In 2002, his second full year in TC2000 (similar to BTCC at that times) he was crowned Champion and he's been a constant animator in this series since he entered in during 2001. 2003 was the year he made the leap to Turismo Carretera, very different to TC2000 when it is a '70s Stock Car-like series, and since the beggining he made the pace and in his second year he got three wins, being the driver with most wins in that series during 2004, and showing as one of the candidates to the title for this year. A great racer to be a mediocre one, huh?

Mazzacane, instead, hadn't shown his abilities in local motorsport since he made the trip to Europe in 1994 (in 1993 he raced in the B class in the SouthAm F3).
If only Gastón tried to think to turn driving for driver management, like Inoue did...

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I still remember Fontana racing at Magny-Cours and Martin exclaiming on air, "you can even hear him lifting through turn one - no one ever lifts for turn one in a Formula 1 car!"
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lol. Best thread EVER! I call it a celebration of mediocrity. No...wait, Mediocre would be a compliment for these guys!
So what's your own F1 driving history ? Have you driven an F1 car ? Have you tried to qualify for a GP ? Have you driven against an F1 driver ?
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I still remember Fontana racing at Magny-Cours and Martin exclaiming on air, "you can even hear him lifting through turn one - no one ever lifts for turn one in a Formula 1 car!"
Martin himself lifted in many places F1 cars shouldn't have done. Great driver that he is, let's not forget that equipment counts for more than 95% of the performance package !
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So what's your own F1 driving history ? Have you driven an F1 car ? Have you tried to qualify for a GP ? Have you driven against an F1 driver ?
Oh, sorry I must have misread the thread, it must be called "We rate Skam's ability to drive an F1 car". Sorry I thought it was called Worst Driver Ever.
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Maybe I misread the thread title myself. If the kinds of people named here, who managed to reach F1 and expose their skills to the world, are candidates for the title of 'worst driver ever'... then what about those of us who never managed such a feat.
Not to single you out Skam, but with the full support of the Ferrari GP team, and a week's testing, does anyone on this thread think they could get an F2005 within 5 seconds of Albers' Minardi ?
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As we have descended into bickering (if we came that way to it) I think we'll call time here.

If any of these characters that have added something to F1 down the many years then please discuss further.

I think also another mention should go to f1rejects.com for compiling a list of some of them.

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