Peugeot 908 discussion - Page 71

CTD · 5 Feb 2013, 18:02 (Ref:3199679)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

With what engine? I'm not sure PSA have any production engine that is liable for the kind of power output needed for a P2 car.

3L V6 Diesel
WR planned to use this engine.

PSA has also developed a 3.6L V8 Diesel, which is used mainly by Ford and Land Rover/Range Rover. However this does not feature in any of their cars, so very unlikely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17#3.0D.2FTDV6.2FHDi

Pescarolo did also use an elderly Peugeot V6 in the beginning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_ES_engine

The WM which set the top speed used the previous PRV V6 Engine, also production based.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRV_engine

GT3.14 · 5 Feb 2013, 23:21 (Ref:3199897)

Does anyone know why?

Canada ALMS fan · 6 Feb 2013, 00:54 (Ref:3199944)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Does anyone know why?

Audi has done that too in the past in the paddock. Perhaps it indicates certain fluids are full or empty?

CyberMotor · 7 Feb 2013, 10:26 (Ref:3200610)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Does anyone know why?

Plugs the air intake to keep trash out? Also, can be used for the stall test. Plug those in and the car should stall for lack of air or if it keeps running, it indicates an air leakage somewhere letting in air into the engine that should not be going in.

Coach Ep · 7 Feb 2013, 12:05 (Ref:3200665)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Does anyone know why?

The bright yellow ball? It's attached to a board that covered a sidepod air? intake while on the grid and the ball was there so the mechanics would not forget to take it out prior to the start.

Have seen it on other cars on the grid too. Purpose to the board is unknown to me.

Victor_RO · 7 Feb 2013, 12:23 (Ref:3200679)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

The bright yellow ball? It's attached to a board that covered a sidepod air? intake while on the grid and the ball was there so the mechanics would not forget to take it out prior to the start.

Have seen it on other cars on the grid too. Purpose to the board is unknown to me.

They put a board/blanking panel over the radiators during the installation lap to quickly get some heat into the engine, but then they have to remove it before the race to avoid the engine getting too hot and blowing up.

Mal · 13 Feb 2013, 07:58 (Ref:3203942)

Bearing in mind their latest results I dont think they will be returning anytime soon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21439941

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Peugeot Citroen reports a huge net loss of 5bn euros (£4.29bn) for 2012 - the worst result in its history

Simmi · 13 Feb 2013, 10:15 (Ref:3203999)

You have to wonder whether the Citroen WRC team can survive that - especially with Loeb moving on.

CTD · 13 Feb 2013, 15:13 (Ref:3204077)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

You have to wonder whether the Citroen WRC team can survive that - especially with Loeb moving on.

And how Citroen is allowed a WTCC program just to keep 1 driver on board!?

somebodysb2 · 13 Feb 2013, 21:24 (Ref:3204226)

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Originally Posted by CTD

And how Citroen is allowed a WTCC program just to keep 1 driver on board!?

Well Volvo did exactly the same

Mike E · 5 Apr 2013, 11:27 (Ref:3229466)

OK, it's a 208 not a 908 but it is a return of sorts to international motorsport. I would love to see this.

http://www.wrc.com/news/loeb-at-the-...urn/?fid=18400

CTD · 5 Apr 2013, 18:47 (Ref:3229637)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

OK, it's a 208 not a 908 but it is a return of sorts to international motorsport. I would love to see this.

http://www.wrc.com/news/loeb-at-the-...urn/?fid=18400

Very interesting indeed.
Let's hope this is the beginning of a Le Mans return!

Acid09 · 5 Apr 2013, 19:04 (Ref:3229643)

I doubt it, LMP1 is pretty much the second most expensive sporting programme you can have aside from F1.

A one-off event with a rally car can probably be done for a fraction of the costs. They slap a turbo on the S2000 car, add a bit of aero and that's it. I doubt it will break the bank.

It took Peugeot 13 years to return after their last withdrawal and I believe we`re looking at a similar timeframe here. I can't see them return this decade, even if the company makes a drastic turn for the better...which does not seem to be in the cards right now.

CTD · 5 Apr 2013, 19:43 (Ref:3229662)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

I doubt it, LMP1 is pretty much the second most expensive sporting programme you can have aside from F1.

A one-off event with a rally car can probably be done for a fraction of the costs. They slap a turbo on the S2000 car, add a bit of aero and that's it. I doubt it will break the bank.

It took Peugeot 13 years to return after their last withdrawal and I believe we`re looking at a similar timeframe here. I can't see them return this decade, even if the company makes a drastic turn for the better...which does not seem to be in the cards right now.

Nobody said it would be a fast one

. (the return that is)

However, the fact that Peugeot keeps a part of their motorsport program alive is positive. They do have quite a comprehensive program currently (Mostly with the 208)

deggis · 15 Apr 2013, 17:05 (Ref:3234759)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

OK, it's a 208 not a 908 but it is a return of sorts to international motorsport. I would love to see this.

http://www.wrc.com/news/loeb-at-the-...urn/?fid=18400

At least the 908 rear wing... has found a new life:

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"The rear wing, which is that of the Le Mans 24 Hours-winning 908

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5...ikes-Peak.html

GT6 · 15 Apr 2013, 17:09 (Ref:3234765)

Boy is that an ugly car

gustavobamba · 15 Apr 2013, 17:12 (Ref:3234768)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Boy is that an ugly car

This is not ugly, this is Pikes Peak Style :-)))

Victor_RO · 15 Apr 2013, 18:34 (Ref:3234801)

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Originally Posted by deggis

At least the 908 rear wing... has found a new life

Judging by the pics of the car "undressed" and with the intake system exposed, it seems as if something more than the rear wing found a new life in this thing. The intake looks strangely familiar, almost as if we've seen it before... oh yeah, the V8 turbodiesel in the 908.

CTD · 15 Apr 2013, 19:58 (Ref:3234840)

Nice to see a Peugeot Pikes Peak car again.

Sad to see another part of the Le Mans project used to other stuff that the original purpose. (The Copper Concept used the whole powertrain of the 908)

Bubak · 15 Apr 2013, 21:53 (Ref:3234908)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

The intake looks strangely familiar, almost as if we've seen it before... oh yeah, the V8 turbodiesel in the 908.

I found only this now: but somewhere I saw bigger res.

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http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...es-peak-racer/
" Although its exterior styling resembles that of the production model, the Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak has a tubular steel chassis and is powered by a V6 engine used in restricted form in a Le Mans Prototype. This engine has now been tuned to develop 800bhp (/*btw some say 1000). "

seanyb505 · 15 Apr 2013, 22:00 (Ref:3234910)

^Picture really makes me wonder why they abandoned a successful sports car program...even more so now that there is a red bull logo on the side of the car. How many racing series is Red Bull now a sponsor of except sports cars? F1, Nascar, Rally (pikes peak at least) DTM anymore?

deggis · 15 Apr 2013, 22:18 (Ref:3234919)

The whole Pikes Peak program is probably quite small compared to LMP. I wouldn't compare them at all.

TF110 · 15 Apr 2013, 22:59 (Ref:3234940)

Red Bull are probably along for the ride in part because of Loeb- that's my guess.

CTD · 16 Apr 2013, 05:29 (Ref:3235043)

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Originally Posted by deggis

The whole Pikes Peak program is probably quite small compared to LMP. I wouldn't compare them at all.

Agreed!
The whole project is a pic and mix of previous racing efforts.
The 908 rear wing
and the Pescarolo V6 as some examples. (The only modern Peugeot sportscar V6 I could think of)

TF110 · 16 Apr 2013, 07:05 (Ref:3235075)

This car looks like a monster. It'd be amazing to have races with these 'unlimited' hill climb cars. Loose regs, just use something that resembles a car from your stable and put on the aero you want but limit the costs somehow. Truly some spectacular vehicles.

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