[LM24 Race] 2018 Le Mans 24 Hours Race Thread

[maximus]

People say Alonso is a bit of a selfish person but I doubt he'd want to take doing the final stint away from Nakajima.

[kvenom]

Originally Posted by mattsmith

If the #5 Ginetta finishes and doesn't lose more than a few laps then it might actually be classified!

Excellent testing session at least.

[airbusA346]

10 sec stop/go for #7, exceeding fuel

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by maximus

People say Alonso is a bit of a selfish person but I doubt he'd want to take doing the final stint away from Nakajima.

He is absolutely not a selfish person. He was the first to tell everyone that he did not set the pole time. The media treat him selfishly, but he certainly is not.

[Maggo]

Originally Posted by airbusA346

10 sec stop/go for #7, exceeding fuel

Wurz said Alonso will not get in the car anymore

[kvenom]

I’m still befuddled about the lack of penalty for the #8.

[J Jay]

Thank you Leena, somebody finally states the oft-ignored truth - manufacturers will spend whatever they think is appropriate, regardless of the regulations

[joeb]

Originally Posted by kvenom

I’m still befuddled about the lack of penalty for the #8.

The wheels never spun, they were just blowing in the wind.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Thank you Leena, somebody finally states the oft-ignored truth - manufacturers will spend whatever they think is appropriate, regardless of the regulations

It is good to get her perspective in the booth. Much more interesting to listen to than TK

[tigas]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Thank you Leena, somebody finally states the oft-ignored truth - manufacturers will spend whatever they think is appropriate, regardless of the regulations

And Audi only started doing F1-style cars because the ACO wouldn't let them develop other lighter hybrid systems that would compensate for the heavier weight of a diesel engine block. They had to spend the money somewhere...

[Irie]

Copied from another forum (not by me originally):

Nothing will come of it because, contrary to popular belief, spinning the wheels while up on the jacks isn't disallowed. Running the engine during the stop is against rule 10.8.1.22 - which IIRC is what teams are punished for when a car "spins its wheels" on the jack. Toyota doesn't run the ICE in the pitlane, so no penalty under that rule. People (especially the RLM team) have been conflating this with 10.8.1.15. "It is strictly prohibited to spin the wheels when a car leaves the pit". So as far as I can see, you're allowed to spin the wheels as much as you like while it's up on jacks, as long as you don't do it using the ICE.

[mattsmith]

Originally Posted by joeb

The wheels never spun, they were just blowing in the wind.

The rules say:-

Originally Posted by ACO

10.8.1.15. – It is strictly prohibited to spin the wheels when a
car leaves the pit.
Penalty: Stop and Go.

Wheels can spin as long as it isn't when you leave the pits. It's to stop massive smokey burnouts.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by mattsmith

The rules say:-



Wheels can spin as long as it isn't when you leave the pits. It's to stop massive smokey burnouts.

There's also a rule about the engine running whilst on the jacks (which is what people are penalised for when the wheels spin). The whole point in that rule is to stop mechanics having hands ripped off.

So it seems as though hybrids may be excluded from this safety rule. Which also would explain why the Toyota can pull away so quickly - it can all be engaged on the jacks, whilst the other teams are regulated to not be allowed to do that.

[airbusA346]

Another penalty for #7

Wonder if #8 has exceeded the stints

[joeb]

Originally Posted by mattsmith

The rules say:-



Wheels can spin as long as it isn't when you leave the pits. It's to stop massive smokey burnouts.

Well there you go, that is why there is no penalty.

[Irie]

What is happening right now? Everybody getting penalties

[fieldodreams79]

I suggest we penalize both Toyotas for having an unfair advantage with hybrid power.

[Akrapovic]

In the Spa thread I was repeatedly told that there was no hard limit on fuel length for green flag stints because the statement said SHOULD and that was just an intention.

Turns out I was right - the word "should" means they can apply it as a hard limit.

This is silly now.

[kaivo]

epic bs

[airbusA346]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

I suggest we penalize both Toyotas for having an unfair advantage with hybrid power.

11/12 lap penalty?

[Irie]

Why didn't they penalize the SMP before? I don't understand this there is no rule like this afaik

[bobec]

Best non-hybrid 12 laps behind....nice EoT, ACO

[outnumbered]

So did they get two penalties for the same thing - i.e. they went one lap over AND used too much fuel in doing so. Hence 2 stop&gos ? Seems a bit harsh if so.

[J Jay]

This isn't doing anybody any favours.

[airbusA346]

Penalty for #1 too