Asian Le Mans series? - Page 8

Dead-Eye · 17 Sep 2009, 19:34 (Ref:2542996)

That 996 doesn't look like the way it's homologated either...

mirkob · 17 Sep 2009, 20:04 (Ref:2543015)

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Originally Posted by The359

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However an update yesterday added the JimGainer F430 SuperGT car to GT2 and a Faust Racing 996 from the Super Taikyu endurance series. So a sum total of 23.

I wonder if JimGainer's going to have to pull an engine change on the F430. They run a 4.5 liter in SuperGT.

Are GT300 and ST1 cars allowed in an ACO race ?

The359 · 17 Sep 2009, 21:02 (Ref:2543066)

The Team Daishin Ferrari, Hankook-KTR Porsche, and at least one of the JLOC Lamborghinis are GT300 cars as well. I'm sure the ACO will attempt to equalize them somehow.

Marcel ten Caat · 17 Sep 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2543084)

Mind you that the BMW E92 M3 GTR is also allowed in the Asian Le Mans Series, the American Le Mans Series but not in Europe...so why no Japanese GT cars ;-)

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 21:56 (Ref:2543094)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Mind you that the BMW E92 M3 GTR is also allowed in the Asian Le Mans Series, the American Le Mans Series but not in Europe...so why no Japanese GT cars ;-)

Hmm, and just where does the idea that the BMW is not fully ACO homologated come from?

L.P.

Dead-Eye · 17 Sep 2009, 22:10 (Ref:2543100)

Expanding on my earlier post: Is the 996 still homologated at all? I looked through the FIA documents a while ago and I think it said its homologation had run out. I might be wrong and it might be different under ACO rules though.

Speed-King · 17 Sep 2009, 22:24 (Ref:2543107)

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Originally Posted by The359

The Team Daishin Ferrari, Hankook-KTR Porsche, and at least one of the JLOC Lamborghinis are GT300 cars as well. I'm sure the ACO will attempt to equalize them somehow.

The Daishin Ferrari and the Hankook-Porsche run in full GT2-specs in Super GT and have thus more than the 350ish hp of their competitors. So these should be no problem.

rich07 · 17 Sep 2009, 22:54 (Ref:2543126)

Is you see a photo of the Daishin Ferrari, it runs GT2 (or close to) GT2 aero compared to the Jim Gainer 430 which is quite different and certainly not GT2 spec. So if Super GT allows the Ferrari to run in GT2 spec then the superior horsepower possibly makes up for not having the better aero that the other GT300 cars have.

Slightly OT. Daishin actually won in gt300 on the weekend at Fuiji, it went down to the last corner.

Canada ALMS fan · 17 Sep 2009, 23:55 (Ref:2543151)

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Originally Posted by The359

Goh is gone from the entry list, Sora/Pescarolo is down to 1 car.

However an update yesterday added the JimGainer F430 SuperGT car to GT2 and a Faust Racing 996 from the Super Taikyu endurance series. So a sum total of 23.

I count 24?

Japanese Samurai · 18 Sep 2009, 00:27 (Ref:2543161)

S-GT specification F430 of JIM GAINER is completely remodeled.
The car has the inboard suspension, and tubler flame excluding the monocoque.
I think that they newly bought F430 of the FIA-GT specification for this race.

Japanese Samurai · 18 Sep 2009, 08:18 (Ref:2543277)

According to AUTOSPORT(of Japan),
JIM GAINER's F430 is FIA-GT/ACO spec F430GT.
They are advancing the purchase procedure of this car now.
Drivers are Tetsuya Tanaka and Katsuyuki Hiranaka.

The359 · 18 Sep 2009, 09:43 (Ref:2543307)

Tokai/YGK Courage testing. I see they're not going to bother with changing the rear wing to meet ACO specifications.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio..._00_Tokai2.jpg

Team claims the YGK Turbo V8 has 50 more horsepower thanks to a new air intake and exhaust system and that the chassis has been lightened by 35 kg, while all aerodynamic upgrades have been internal.

Drivers will be Shogo Misuyama and Shigekazu Wakisaka.

Marcel ten Caat · 18 Sep 2009, 19:32 (Ref:2543570)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, and just where does the idea that the BMW is not fully ACO homologated come from?

I think it was mentioned by Vincent Beaumesnil (ACO Sports Manager) in Autosport either last week or week before. Saying that the car was legal for USA and Asia, but not Europe.

airbusA346 · 18 Sep 2009, 20:03 (Ref:2543582)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

I think it was mentioned by Vincent Beaumesnil (ACO Sports Manager) in Autosport either last week or week before. Saying that the car was legal for USA and Asia, but not Europe.

It was in last weeks issue.

Tom.

MJ_N_09 · 18 Sep 2009, 21:25 (Ref:2543627)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, and just where does the idea that the BMW is not fully ACO homologated come from?

L.P.

Sounds like people are still jealous of the BMW's performance.

NightStalk3r · 19 Sep 2009, 02:12 (Ref:2543681)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Sounds like people are still jealous of the BMW's performance.

Or could it just be the fact is doesn't conform to ACO regulations? Transaxel anyone?

Gingers4Justice · 19 Sep 2009, 18:18 (Ref:2543953)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Or could it just be the fact is doesn't conform to ACO regulations? Transaxel anyone?

It could just be that its plain and simple NOT fully ACO homologated. It can't race in Europe. That is not full homologation.

Gingers4Justice · 19 Sep 2009, 18:28 (Ref:2543960)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The359

Tokai/YGK Courage testing. I see they're not going to bother with changing the rear wing to meet ACO specifications.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio..._00_Tokai2.jpg

Team claims the YGK Turbo V8 has 50 more horsepower thanks to a new air intake and exhaust system and that the chassis has been lightened by 35 kg, while all aerodynamic upgrades have been internal.

Drivers will be Shogo Misuyama and Shigekazu Wakisaka.

Hmmm. I'm still not holding my breath for a Tokai YGK win at Le Mans by 2013!

TWK · 20 Sep 2009, 01:21 (Ref:2544128)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

It could just be that its plain and simple NOT fully ACO homologated. It can't race in Europe. That is not full homologation.

And that, sir, is complete, unmitigated, ridiculous, fictional, made up BS.

The Badger · 20 Sep 2009, 14:41 (Ref:2544348)

Fair dues TWK ..... you have a way with words , even to the youngsters amongst us mate .

Marcel ten Caat · 20 Sep 2009, 15:14 (Ref:2544369)

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Originally Posted by TWK

And that, sir, is complete, unmitigated, ridiculous, fictional, made up BS.

Even though I have not seen any homologation form of that car...it is of course strange that the ACO does not allow it to race in Europe ;-)

But we're getting off-topic here.

Anyone for a hint of drivers?

Oliver Jarvis and Sakon Yamamoto have been mentioned as Kolles drivers, none of their Le Mans Series drivers seems to be making the trip.

AndrewF31 · 20 Sep 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2544466)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

It could just be that its plain and simple NOT fully ACO homologated. It can't race in Europe. That is not full homologation.

Well, this article on a German site (sportauto.de) says it's only homologated for one year because of a deal ACO and IMSA made to eliminate the GT2-S category, where the BMW's were included: http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl...MU6q-kHJRou__A

This seems to be a confusing story.

rich07 · 21 Sep 2009, 01:28 (Ref:2544626)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

But we're getting off-topic here.

Anyone for a hint of drivers?

Oliver Jarvis and Sakon Yamamoto have been mentioned as Kolles drivers, none of their Le Mans Series drivers seems to be making the trip.

Do Kolles plan on putting more Japanese drivers in their cars for this race?

The359 · 21 Sep 2009, 08:57 (Ref:2544764)

Another update, although this seems more like a correction. The Faust Racing 996 is out, but replaced by the Scuderia Forme 996. The car has the same number so I assume the ACO had put the wrong team name in the entry.

Scuderia Forme ran the full 2007 JLMC season with a 996 GT3-R, not sure if this will be the same car because the entry list still has it as a 996 GT3-RSR.

MJ_N_09 · 23 Sep 2009, 17:48 (Ref:2546798)

Am I the only one thinks that the 996 will be a disaster, at least in this day and age?

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