Group A Toyota Corolla History (merged) - Page 8

malscar · 9 Mar 2009, 20:44 (Ref:2412477)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

I think that's the best picture I've seen of an AE86... in fact one of the best touring car pictures period. Thanks for posting it.

That photo is from a Bathurst annual book put out in Australia.

Eircamae86 · 10 Mar 2009, 10:31 (Ref:2412849)

Some old endurance race pics

Team Toyota Castrol/Jens Henrik Krohn At the Donington 500km race 6/4/1986

Result: 17th 1st in Div.1
Grid: 30th (1:55.850)
Tyres: Dunlop

Eircamae86 · 10 Mar 2009, 10:33 (Ref:2412850)

ASP Racing Team Prague Same Race as above.
Result: did not finish
Grid: 36th (2:01.580)
Tyres: Dunlop

Eircamae86 · 10 Mar 2009, 10:34 (Ref:2412852)

A.G.K. Motorsport Driven by: Geoff Kimber-Smith (GB)/Gerry Marshall (GB)
Result: did not finish
Grid: 31st (1:56.060)

KA · 10 Mar 2009, 10:35 (Ref:2412853)

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Originally Posted by bigears

Whose car is it?

Nick Whale or Dave Loudoun?

In my 1988 BTCC entry list at the Birmingham Superprix, it was listed as Dave Loudoun for CHMS. But in the Motoring News article, it mentions of Nick Whale just making through qualifying for the race.

I think we decided it was Whale- as you said, he's mentioned in the MN report, I think it looks like his name on the door, and 'Central BMW' (on the sunstrip) were one of his sponsors.

It would be interesting to see the official entry list though...

Eircamae86 · 10 Mar 2009, 10:42 (Ref:2412858)

Another Endurance Racer, I read all about the history of this car some time back but it has since slipped my mind, Spa is ringing bells though.
http://www.auto-muzeum.cz/?page=en,toyota-corolla-gt-16v

KA · 10 Mar 2009, 11:14 (Ref:2412882)

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Originally Posted by Eircamae86

Another Endurance Racer, I read all about the history of this car some time back but it has since slipped my mind, Spa is ringing bells though.
http://www.auto-muzeum.cz/?page=en,toyota-corolla-gt-16v

Yes, one of the Charouz cars from the 1988 ETCC

Jesper OH · 11 Mar 2009, 18:18 (Ref:2413790)

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Originally Posted by KA

Yes, one of the Charouz cars from the 1988 ETCC

I pretty sure these cars were in fact from German Georg Alber, with Charouz likely to have provided the Marlboro backing. Years later he was hill climbing a Sierra RS500 in the same color scheme.

Jesper

Jesper OH · 11 Mar 2009, 18:22 (Ref:2413793)

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Originally Posted by Eircamae86

Sorry about the 2 posts above, had no control over them, had to await the mods approval or something. If there is a mod on here please tidy-up/delete my post

For a considerable time this Corolla was a mystery only having Japanese result tables to look at. A glimpse of the car at YouTube identified it as a Corolla, but this picture provide clear evidence, so thank you.
Never seen the Skyline before, but this actually dates the picture to 1986.

Jesper

KA · 12 Mar 2009, 10:36 (Ref:2414189)

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Originally Posted by Jesper OH

I pretty sure these cars were in fact from German Georg Alber, with Charouz likely to have provided the Marlboro backing. Years later he was hill climbing a Sierra RS500 in the same color scheme.

Jesper

That sounds fairly likely- Alber was usually amongst the drivers as I remember

Eircamae86 · 13 Mar 2009, 10:24 (Ref:2414806)

Any links for youtube jesper?

Eircamae86 · 13 Mar 2009, 10:42 (Ref:2414810)

A few more period pics

[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/AE86forums/IMG_3103_R7cu1TEoWvg8.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/AE86forums/IMG_3106_jJlJO4vAhYko.jpg[/IMG]

Eircamae86 · 13 Mar 2009, 13:23 (Ref:2414904)

This is a bit of a joke now posting pics on here, not sure If I can be bothered with it

Eircamae86 · 13 Mar 2009, 13:27 (Ref:2414905)

Jesper OH · 13 Mar 2009, 15:13 (Ref:2414965)

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Originally Posted by Eircamae86

This is a bit of a joke now posting pics on here, not sure If I can be bothered with it

Why? I have seen a few of your pictures before but the rest is new to me, and those Japanese series pictures are intriguing. But I rarely know what I'm looking at or what year of what race, so it will take a bit of time before I have a reaction to your pictures.

Keep 'em coming. The above picture features what is probably the longest committed of the Japanese Group A teams - the #25 Advan Toyota. Keiichi Tsuchiya was I believe the driving force behind this team, entering cars throughout the nine seasons of Group A racing in Japan. Behind you have the #16 VW Golf GTI of which I only have one race - Round 3 of the 1985 AJTCC. Auto Lager Schmidt being the name I'm told.

Jesper

KA · 13 Mar 2009, 16:10 (Ref:2414987)

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Originally Posted by Eircamae86

This is a bit of a joke now posting pics on here, not sure If I can be bothered with it

Please don't stop! As Jesper said, the Japanese Group A scene is the one we know least about- I've never seen a lot of these cars before. The Object T/Trampio car I recognise (white/blue #12) from an old Fujimi 1/24 kit I built about 20 years ago- think we've mentioned it earlier in the thread, came in 2 versions, white/blue and white/green

Looking at those pics, theres something interesting about the Trampio paintscheme- if you look at the doors, behind the race numbers, there's a large patch of very small writing (towards the back edge of the door, just ahead of those red crosses that have been marked on the pic) If I remember correctly, it was something like a piece of poetry- not something you see every day on a touring car...

terryobeirne · 13 Mar 2009, 21:06 (Ref:2415169)

the picture by Eircamae86 is definitely the wellington 500. if I remember correctly, it is 1988 and the AE82 in the background is probably the Toyota Team Australia car. At that time they had 2, so its unclear which one that is. Both cars survive, so I'll check with their respective owners.

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 03:56 (Ref:2415318)

That golf is alive & well, I know the owner through another site.
Ill just have to post the pics one by one

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 03:57 (Ref:2415319)

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 04:00 (Ref:2415321)

Keiichi Tsuchiya , met him a few years ago, now more famous as the Drift King with his green driving gloves & D1 Drifting Main man, used to be anyway. Havent exactly been following it.
He still owns an ae86 20v Trueno Road car.

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 04:01 (Ref:2415322)

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 04:02 (Ref:2415323)

Eircamae86 · 14 Mar 2009, 04:03 (Ref:2415324)

malscar · 14 Mar 2009, 09:38 (Ref:2415391)

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Originally Posted by terryobeirne

the picture by Eircamae86 is definitely the wellington 500. if I remember correctly, it is 1988 and the AE82 in the background is probably the Toyota Team Australia car. At that time they had 2, so its unclear which one that is. Both cars survive, so I'll check with their respective owners.

1987. The car in the background has the name Lester on the windscreen. Does not look like the Aussie fwd cars.

Jesper OH · 14 Mar 2009, 22:20 (Ref:2415728)

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Originally Posted by Eircamae86

Keiichi Tsuchiya , met him a few years ago, now more famous as the Drift King with his green driving gloves & D1 Drifting Main man, used to be anyway. Havent exactly been following it.
He still owns an ae86 20v Trueno Road car.

Knowing that "a formerAE86" Touring car star was drifting but didn't realise it was Tsuchiya!

Jesper

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