FIA GT World Championship 2012 - Page 82

Maelochs · 3 Nov 2012, 19:13 (Ref:3161973)

If he didn't have a big ego we would never have heard of him and BES wouldn't exist.

GT3.14 · 3 Nov 2012, 19:22 (Ref:3161977)

tux · 3 Nov 2012, 19:48 (Ref:3161992)

Does Ratel not get it? People/drivers who fund GT teams are not able to race outside of Europe due to a lack of finance, the only way to get them to go is to supplement travel or offer prize money at a level which will allow them to recoup the costs. Unless Ratel will stump up the prize money or travel money, then he has to raise it via sponsors (which are very difficult to find) and/or ticket sales which outside of Europe are almost non existent.

Racing for a world title in a world championship is all well and good but that alone is not going to persuade people to part with large amounts of money. FIA WEC gets away with it because 1. If you enter you get an automatic Le Mans entry which is very attractive to drivers, team owners and sponsors with money. 2. Manufacturers running works cars which attracts alot more media attention. and 3. Because of the popularity of the Le Mans 24 Hours fans follow the fortunes of entrants of the race throughout the season.

Ratel should concentrate on BES, ADAC masters, British GT and the French GT championship, its what the market wants, you can see that in the grid sizes.

Promoters of the big championships need to swallow their pride and work together.

rich07 · 3 Nov 2012, 19:58 (Ref:3161998)

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Originally Posted by Salamus

Why does Ratel have such a big fascination for a "World Title"? Arguably his most successful championship, the BES, is 99% European. Just stay in European and help out the teams that have committed to you for many years now. Sheeesh!

Indeed. Blancpain is a great example of what happens when you provide the teams with a championship that stays affordable and attractive because it doesn't wander all over the world. If its not broken then don't fix it!! Ratel has a big success on his hands, all he needs to make it better is a few tweaks. Adding more overseas races is not needed and just ****es off the people who are the lifeblood of the series-the competitors.

I can't believe he's still fighting with the teams over this

Maelochs · 3 Nov 2012, 20:14 (Ref:3162006)

I thought you people were sports car fans. if you were, you would know that logic has never been part of planning for sports car series.

Ratel is simply following the basic sports car formula--stumble across something really good and screw it up.

GT3.14 · 3 Nov 2012, 20:47 (Ref:3162016)

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Originally Posted by tux

Does Ratel not get it? People/drivers who fund GT teams are not able to race outside of Europe due to a lack of finance, the only way to get them to go is to supplement travel or offer prize money at a level which will allow them to recoup the costs. Unless Ratel will stump up the prize money or travel money, then he has to raise it via sponsors (which are very difficult to find) and/or ticket sales which outside of Europe are almost non existent.

That is what City Challenge did, and that was a massive success. Maybe City Challenge should call themselves the FIA GT1 World Championship next year.

Jacques Rabbit · 3 Nov 2012, 20:48 (Ref:3162017)

I completely lack the ability to understand all the GT3 racing in the world, but I enjoy it, so I guess I'll just regard this all as wonderful.

rich07 · 3 Nov 2012, 20:55 (Ref:3162020)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelochs

I thought you people were sports car fans. if you were, you would know that logic has never been part of planning for sports car series.

Ratel is simply following the basic sports car formula--stumble across something really good and screw it up.

aneesh99 · 3 Nov 2012, 22:04 (Ref:3162040)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Enough said really, this thread is just getting derailed.

**joeb** · 3 Nov 2012, 23:13 (Ref:3162071)

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Originally Posted by aneesh99

Enough said really, this thread is just getting derailed.

You are right. Actually this thread is pretty much over, season has ended, championship is done for good. Not really too much to talk about here. If someone wants to start a new thread to discuss the new SRO championship be my guest. But let's let this thread die like the GT World Championship has.

urdragon · 4 Nov 2012, 02:25 (Ref:3162117)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Epic!

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

That is what City Challenge did, and that was a massive success. Maybe City Challenge should call themselves the FIA GT1 World Championship next year.

What i would do, is to sign a contract with city challenge and make this event a flyaway event for the GT world, it has enough teams and enough local interest, make it score point for the GT world and you've got one more flyaway event.

I think what ratel is doing is grabbing the most powerfull bes teams to GT world, and single car or less powerfull run Blancpain.

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Originally Posted by joeb

You are right. Actually this thread is pretty much over, season has ended, championship is done for good. Not really too much to talk about here. If someone wants to start a new thread to discuss the new SRO championship be my guest. But let's let this thread die like the GT World Championship has.

The problem is even we still don't know the future series name (to provide a thread's title)...

FstrthnU · 4 Nov 2012, 04:16 (Ref:3162123)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

Epic!

What i would do, is to sign a contract with city challenge and make this event a flyaway event for the GT world, it has enough teams and enough local interest, make it score point for the GT world and you've got one more flyaway event.

I think what ratel is doing is grabbing the most powerfull bes teams to GT world, and single car or less powerfull run Blancpain.

The problem is even we still don't know the future series name (to provide a thread's title)...

According to Dailysportcar, the tentative/official title is "SRO Sprint Series"

Salamus · 4 Nov 2012, 04:48 (Ref:3162130)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

According to Dailysportcar, the tentative/official title is "SRO Sprint Series"

I thought it was to be named the Blancpain Sprint Series (BSS)?

aneesh99 · 4 Nov 2012, 16:18 (Ref:3162432)

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Originally Posted by Salamus

I thought it was to be named the Blancpain Sprint Series (BSS)?

Maybe it can work if they support the BES, keeps logistics costs down etc

urdragon · 4 Nov 2012, 18:05 (Ref:3162498)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

According to Dailysportcar, the tentative/official title is "SRO Sprint Series"

SRO sprint series means Ratel has not found a sponsor.... Ratel is fighting against the dead horse, and by now the dead horse wins.

Was not going to be a international label like "World series"? I'm not sure neither SRO Sprint Series or BSS.

Maelochs · 4 Nov 2012, 18:52 (Ref:3162521)

Why not call it Ratel's Blancpain Sprints?

broadrun96 · 4 Nov 2012, 19:38 (Ref:3162553)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

Why not call it Ratel's Blancpain Sprints?

Think if they wanted to pay for sponsoring it they'd have paid for Blancpain Sprint Series to keep some symmetry to help in selling both series to team sponsors. Has to be easier to build up teams with a sprint series option before building a strong enough team to go to the enduros and cheaper, even if only slightly.

tux · 4 Nov 2012, 19:47 (Ref:3162560)

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Originally Posted by aneesh99

Maybe it can work if they support the BES, keeps logistics costs down etc

It is going to be supporting the BES isnt it? Id imagine most of the teams will race in both championships so that the Gentleman drivers can get much more track time.

Maelochs · 4 Nov 2012, 19:58 (Ref:3162565)

Um ... Ratel's BS?

GT3.14 · 4 Nov 2012, 20:09 (Ref:3162570)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

Um ... Ratel's BS?

Mt. Lynx · 4 Nov 2012, 20:30 (Ref:3162582)

Sheesh. Why not appoint a few of the already existing GT3 races around the globe to be points eligiable for a world title? Spa, Dubai, Bathurst, Nürburgring, Pau, you name it. GT3's race practically everywhere.

Speed-King · 4 Nov 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3162586)

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Originally Posted by tux

It is going to be supporting the BES isnt it? Id imagine most of the teams will race in both championships so that the Gentleman drivers can get much more track time.

Naw, the sprint series is going to be dovetailing with BES and together the two will form the FIA GT World Series. Teams can either run one or both series.

hondafan37 · 4 Nov 2012, 23:57 (Ref:3162645)

Ratel talked about the new FIA GT World Series
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14338.html

Pandamasque · 5 Nov 2012, 04:22 (Ref:3162716)

How is different from FIA GT1 World Championship, again? Sanctioning fee discount for not using the word 'championship'?

rich07 · 5 Nov 2012, 08:54 (Ref:3162777)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

Um ... Ratel's BS?

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