WEC LMP Future Regulations (was Le Mans EVO rules - now hypercar rules) - Page 83

gwyllion · 14 Jun 2012, 10:00 (Ref:3090640)

2 energy recovery systems allowed, so like in F1 2014 (KERS and TERS).

Acid09 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:02 (Ref:3090641)

So engine size is unlimited? No standard engine like rumored before?

TF110 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:03 (Ref:3090642)

Weight reduction? Even 800kg would definitely increase fuel saved as well as tire usage.

deggis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:03 (Ref:3090643)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

No standard engine like rumored before?

I think that was debunked already then, but there was the 5(.5)L limit mentioned in couple of places, but appears it's for private teams... not sure why they need it?

gwyllion · 14 Jun 2012, 10:07 (Ref:3090647)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Weight reduction? Even 800kg would definitely increase fuel saved as well as tire usage.

850 kg for hybrids and 830 kg for non-hybrids.

Also coupe mandatory for LMP1, but with a lot of changes to improve visibility (higher driving position, closer to the center of the car, higher roof, ...).

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:14 (Ref:3090654)

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Originally Posted by deggis

I think that was debunked already then, but there was the 5(.5)L limit mentioned in couple of places, but appears it's for private teams... not sure why they need it?

Brings back the old and more reliable Judd.

deggis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:18 (Ref:3090658)

Especially if teams are bringing back pre-2011 engines, this whole period of 2011-2013 regs start to seem so unnecessary.

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:21 (Ref:3090662)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Especially if teams are bringing back pre-2011 engines, this whole period of 2011-2013 regs start to seem so unnecessary.

If you want to look at the bright side of it: They seem to learn from their mistakes.

deggis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:24 (Ref:3090666)

No update on the E-I facebook page for 10 minutes. I guess the press conf. is over.

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:24 (Ref:3090667)

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Originally Posted by deggis

No update on the E-I facebook page for 10 minutes. I guess the press conf. is over.

They had a longer lull before. And the picture we have so far seems strangely incomplete.

The Badger · 14 Jun 2012, 10:25 (Ref:3090668)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Brings back the old and more reliable Judd.

Yeah , bring back the 4L V10 ..... woohoo

henk4 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:37 (Ref:3090678)

the 5.5 liter is the amount of fuel that will be given to privateers for the completion of one lap...

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:39 (Ref:3090680)

Here's the press release on the new rules:

In French

In English

Still super-vague all in all...

deggis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:41 (Ref:3090686)

so a bit more waiting:

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Once approved by the FIA World Council, the 24 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Technical Regulations will be available online from late afternoon on Friday, 15th June.

henk4 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:42 (Ref:3090687)

further interesting points:
No restrictors, turbo pressure maximum 4 bar, LMP1 has to be a coupe, holes on the fenders will move to the inside of the wheel arches, maximum widt 1.90 meters, increased visibility by putting the driver in a higher position, with increased roof height.

arakis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:44 (Ref:3090690)

Ok how are the engines balanced...through total fueal used at 24h or fuel flow

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:44 (Ref:3090691)

Where you get those from, Henk? Sure aren't in the Press Relase on the ACO page...

Victor_RO · 14 Jun 2012, 10:45 (Ref:3090693)

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Originally Posted by henk4

holes on the fenders will move to the inside of the wheel arches

That means exactly the same as the Audi R8C and Toyota GT-One. Back to the future then.

Acid09 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:45 (Ref:3090694)

Sounds promising.

All the doom & gloom about how the evil FIA will kill sports car racing with their engine rules and "it's 1992 all over again" was premature as expected

henk4 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:45 (Ref:3090696)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Still super-vague all in all...

not so much, as the system will be based on the flow of fuel PER LAP. So you can built a 6 liter V12 with twin turbos and 900 BHP, but it has to be able to complete a lap with the given a mount of petrol. Factory teams get less petrol to work with than privateers. (for which LMP1 was not meant in the first place, but that is another matter)

AS a side note, diesel will be allowed for LMP2 in 2013...

henk4 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:46 (Ref:3090698)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Where you get those from, Henk? Sure aren't in the Press Relase on the ACO page...

I just came back from the press conference....

Victor_RO · 14 Jun 2012, 10:47 (Ref:3090701)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Sounds promising.

All the doom & gloom about how the evil FIA will kill sports car racing with their engine rules and "it's 1992 all over again" was premature as expected

It will be doom and gloom again in a few years' time, because this sounds a tiny bit like "1982 all over again".

deggis · 14 Jun 2012, 10:51 (Ref:3090706)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

In English

Well hidden but look at the pdf at the end of the page:

http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...ation_2014.pdf

That should answer a lot of questions.

henk4 · 14 Jun 2012, 10:51 (Ref:3090707)

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Originally Posted by henk4

I just came back from the press conference....

and I will be wondering off now to the Group C paddock, to see some real racecars.....

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:53 (Ref:3090709)

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Originally Posted by henk4

I just came back from the press conference....

Ah, ok.... didn't want to step on your toes. I was just wondering where the turbo boost limit at 4 bar comes from when the PR says turbo boost is free.

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and I will be wondering off now to the Group C paddock, to see some real racecars.....

Have fun!

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