FIA GT GT1 FIA = GT1 ACO according to Stephane Ratel - Page 9

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2009, 17:18 (Ref:2557628)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Is there any reason (beyond wanting to take out Nissan directly) that they couldn't make a GT2 LF-A? I am rather depressed that the ACO hasn't told the 2010 GT1 concept to take a hike; I know they are hardly 100% sensible but this is a little more absurd than I thought. They must be trying to full court press the Asian manufacturers to support that flagging series.

Would agree! Especially with the non interest, per se, being evidenced by the Rat having to grandfather everything and their uncle to get enough cars to possibly fill a grid!

L.P.

Sirius Motorspo · 9 Oct 2009, 18:17 (Ref:2557663)

If I understand this the right way, it would be an extremely bad idea for me (..or anyone else for that matter..) to invest in, let`s say for the case of a good arguement, the Aucott MC 12 for it to run in LMS and FIA GT1 and selected ALMS races in 2010 since it will be obsolete in 2011 already.

That would be at + 1.000.000 EUR investment that had to be realised in 1 year..That´s bad business if I ever saw one..

It sounds to me as if it´s far better for privateers with serious GT ambitions to stay in the FIA GT3 instead of persuing GT1 alltogether.

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2009, 18:36 (Ref:2557680)

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Originally Posted by Sirius Motorspo

If I understand this the right way, it would be an extremely bad idea for me (..or anyone else for that matter..) to invest in, let`s say for the case of a good arguement, the Aucott MC 12 for it to run in LMS and FIA GT1 and selected ALMS races in 2010 since it will be obsolete in 2011 already.

That would be at + 1.000.000 EUR investment that had to be realised in 1 year..That´s bad business if I ever saw one..

It sounds to me as if it´s far better for privateers with serious GT ambitions to stay in the FIA GT3 instead of persuing GT1 alltogether.

Yes! But moving up to GT-2 might also be a good choice as it still races in all major series.

L.P.

Dead-Eye · 9 Oct 2009, 18:57 (Ref:2557696)

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Originally Posted by Sirius Motorspo

If I understand this the right way, it would be an extremely bad idea for me (..or anyone else for that matter..) to invest in, let`s say for the case of a good arguement, the Aucott MC 12 for it to run in LMS and FIA GT1 and selected ALMS races in 2010 since it will be obsolete in 2011 already.

That would be at + 1.000.000 EUR investment that had to be realised in 1 year..That´s bad business if I ever saw one..

I guess it's more for people who already have the car and don't want to change yet. (Vitaphone

)

Do you reckon buying an MC12 would be a 1000000€ investment? Phoenix are selling one of their Corvettes for 380000€...

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2009, 19:04 (Ref:2557704)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I guess it's more for people who already have the car and don't want to change yet. (Vitaphone

)

Do you reckon buying an MC12 would be a 1000000€ investment? Phoenix are selling one of their Corvettes for 380000€...

And then buy the kit, which is still not been produced by P&M yet (in the case of the Corvette) plus spares etc... Which frankly is money down the hole, as nobody will be interested in those parts if they are interested in collecting the car as they are a downgrade of all the current GT-1 models.

L.P.

Sirius Motorspo · 9 Oct 2009, 19:25 (Ref:2557723)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I guess it's more for people who already have the car and don't want to change yet. (Vitaphone

)

Do you reckon buying an MC12 would be a 1000000€ investment? Phoenix are selling one of their Corvettes for 380000€...

Seriously I would throw money at a MC12, since it would give sponsors a chance to field their logos and brand themselves on a quite unique car outside the FIA GT series.

It´s highly visible any way you look at it because it´s so unique in the racing community, and I think it´s precisely why Vitaphone went down that road when it became time for them to chose a racer.

I would invest money in that car hands down if only I could be sure that it could run in international serie in the full period of a lease contract of 3 years which is sadly not the case.

AFC-911 · 13 Oct 2009, 21:09 (Ref:2560817)

How likely are we to see Nissan or Ford do a full season of LMS or Asian LMS?

And as much as I'd like to see the Nissan in GT, I wish that they'd do it in GT2 with a proper homologated engine & go up against the big boys.

The most likely out of the GT1 machines is the Maserati, unfortunately, it would be a shame for that car to make it to the LM24 grid without going against Corvette Racing.

BTW, this FIA GT1 deal for 2010 only as far as we know, correct?

Fogelhund · 13 Oct 2009, 23:00 (Ref:2560870)

If the cost to run at LM is run in the LMS, Nissan will be there.

Belly13 · 14 Oct 2009, 00:57 (Ref:2560909)

Does anyone have a calendar yet, even if it is a draft?
Will the series even go ahead?

Dauer 962 · 14 Oct 2009, 05:50 (Ref:2561026)

Calendar will be presented Friday next week, 23.10.

Mal · 14 Oct 2009, 06:48 (Ref:2561048)

Maserati is one of those brands where cars with significant race provenance can fetch high prices with collectors. If for just one year one or two MC12's made it to Le Mans then those cars would have some serious added value - it may just be worth it??

The359 · 14 Oct 2009, 06:53 (Ref:2561050)

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Originally Posted by Dauer 962

Calendar will be presented Friday next week, 23.10.

Any sign of an initial entry list as well?

Dauer 962 · 14 Oct 2009, 10:48 (Ref:2561151)

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Originally Posted by The359

Any sign of an initial entry list as well?

Not likely, as entries are open until 30.11.09.

mirkob · 14 Oct 2009, 12:00 (Ref:2561205)

"rumors" entry list may be:

Ford GT: Matech 90%, Marc VDS 100%
Nissan GT-R: Gigawave 90%, ???
Lamborghini Murcielago SVR: ???,???
Corvette C6R: PK Carsport 90%, DKR&SRT 90%
Aston Martin DBR9: Hexis 90%, ???
Maserati MC12: Vitaphone 100%, ???

;-)

PorscheFanNo1 · 14 Oct 2009, 14:58 (Ref:2561350)

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Originally Posted by mirkob

"rumors" entry list may be:

Ford GT: Matech 90%, Marc VDS 100%
Nissan GT-R: Gigawave 90%, ???
Lamborghini Murcielago SVR: ???,???
Corvette C6R: PK Carsport 90%, DKR&SRT 90%
Aston Martin DBR9: Hexis 90%, ???
Maserati MC12: Vitaphone 100%, ???

;-)

Just get me 2 lambos and I'd settle with that list even without the questionmarks

mirkob · 14 Oct 2009, 19:37 (Ref:2561514)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Just get me 2 lambos and I'd settle with that list even without the questionmarks

OK! Anyone for the others two?

rich07 · 15 Oct 2009, 02:16 (Ref:2561682)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Just get me 2 lambos and I'd settle with that list even without the questionmarks

I like the way you think!

Belly13 · 15 Oct 2009, 13:00 (Ref:2561935)

So, will Eastern Creek in Australia get a round of the championship? What are the chances?

The359 · 19 Oct 2009, 07:54 (Ref:2564300)

Brno announces they have an FIA GT1 date for 2010, May 14-16.

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

trahsub · 19 Oct 2009, 13:30 (Ref:2564651)

With respect to the Nissan GTR and a bid at GT2, cars are not allowed forced induction, are they? I can't imagine a 6 cylinder N/A engine based on the road going powerplant would be very competative.

Fogelhund · 19 Oct 2009, 13:33 (Ref:2564660)

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Originally Posted by trahsub

With respect to the Nissan GTR and a bid at GT2, cars are not allowed forced induction, are they?

Yes, Turbochargers and Superchargers are allowed on cars up to 4.0l in GT2.

trahsub · 19 Oct 2009, 13:47 (Ref:2564670)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Yes, Turbochargers and Superchargers are allowed on cars up to 4.0l in GT2.

Interesting. So maybe a GT2 GTR would have a chance. I'm not a fan of these GT1 'frankencars'.

AFC-911 · 19 Oct 2009, 13:49 (Ref:2564673)

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Originally Posted by trahsub

Interesting. So maybe a GT2 GTR would have a chance. I'm not a fan of these GT1 'frankencars'.

I like the GT1 cars, I don't like Nissan racing a non-GTR engine. If you're going to race a V8, build a V8.

Gingers4Justice · 19 Oct 2009, 19:12 (Ref:2564897)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

So, will Eastern Creek in Australia get a round of the championship? What are the chances?

About nil, seen as if it does go there the current Eastern Creek will be ruined

. So it wouldn't ever count as Eastern Creek.

I really don't like the planned modifications to that circuit.

Fogelhund · 19 Oct 2009, 23:34 (Ref:2565097)

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Originally Posted by AFC-911

I like the GT1 cars, I don't like Nissan racing a non-GTR engine. If you're going to race a V8, build a V8.

So, you would prefer they just not race then? The problem is that the FIA and ACO rules really penalize turbo charged engines. If it were possible to compete with a turbo engine, then they would have likely run a Turbo V6. However, they didn't design the car to be a race car first, but a road car.

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