BTCC 2024 News & Rumours

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by Robin Marriott

But technically entirely true.

He's won a lot of races in other series and is a BTCC driver.

Technically true indeed, and he isn't too bad a driver. IMO Autosport's original wording was rather clumsy, not that I ever believed HARD would get a "BTCC race winner" mind you

[Pickles]

So a little bit of background on this whole set-up... Daryl is only in the car as Tony still owes his dad money from last year. So you can bet there's hardly any budget going in to fund the drive. Unlimited Edition was set up by someone else who Tony owes money to, as a way to try and recoup some of £100,000+ he is currently owed. So again, you can bet no money has gone in if Unlimited Edition are going to be a main sponsor. And who owns the one car they currently have? That's right, the same man who set up Unlimited Edition.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by SSmith

Hardly surprising choice but not exactly the "race-winning BTCC driver" Autosport seemed to suggest would be in the car!

No drivers have yet been announced, with the team saying that the first is already signed and that ‘discussions continue with regard to the final seat’.

Sources have suggested two race-winning BTCC drivers in contention for the squad.

I read that as one driver already signed and two race-winning drivers in contention for the second car. They wouldn't be "in contention" if they were "already signed"

[touringlegend]

Originally Posted by Pickles

So a little bit of background on this whole set-up... Daryl is only in the car as Tony still owes his dad money from last year. So you can bet there's hardly any budget going in to fund the drive. Unlimited Edition was set up by someone else who Tony owes money to, as a way to try and recoup some of £100,000+ he is currently owed. So again, you can bet no money has gone in if Unlimited Edition are going to be a main sponsor. And who owns the one car they currently have? That's right, the same man who set up Unlimited Edition.

That all sounds very straightforward and un complicated !!

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

That all sounds very straightforward and un complicated !!

Basically Tony convincing people he owes money to, that if the team keeps running they stand a chance of getting something back. If the team folds they get nothing.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Pickles

So a little bit of background on this whole set-up... Daryl is only in the car as Tony still owes his dad money from last year. So you can bet there's hardly any budget going in to fund the drive. Unlimited Edition was set up by someone else who Tony owes money to, as a way to try and recoup some of £100,000+ he is currently owed. So again, you can bet no money has gone in if Unlimited Edition are going to be a main sponsor. And who owns the one car they currently have? That's right, the same man who set up Unlimited Edition.

Would that be...

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/15539228

...by any chance?

[MarcusH26]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I read that as one driver already signed and two race-winning drivers in contention for the second car. They would be "in contention" if they were "already signed"

This is how I read the Autosport story , that Daryl was already signed and this was for the second seat. Will be interesting to see who it turns out to be.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Unlimited Edition was set up by someone else who Tony owes money to, as a way to try and recoup some of £100,000+ he is currently owed. So again, you can bet no money has gone in if Unlimited Edition are going to be a main sponsor. And who owns the one car they currently have? That's right, the same man who set up Unlimited Edition.

https://www.instagram.com/un.limitededition
Un-Limited Edition (with the hyphen) are fibreglass and carbon panel makers. Their Instagram feed has a number of references to Cupra panels, and FB page also talks about them doing Infinity Q50 panels so that all stacks up.

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I read that as one driver already signed and two race-winning drivers in contention for the second car. They wouldn't be "in contention" if they were "already signed"

Fair enough, I must have misremembered the original article

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by redshoes

https://www.instagram.com/un.limitededition
Un-Limited Edition (with the hyphen) are fibreglass and carbon panel makers. Their Instagram feed has a number of references to Cupra panels, and FB page also talks about them doing Infinity Q50 panels so that all stacks up.

And they make body panels for Carl Boardley Motorsport's Hot Rods.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by MarcusH26

Will be interesting to see who's in the second Leon. DeLeon got better as he got more race time but I doubt these 2 Leon's will get the same development level as Restart are doing to their 2 cars.

Presumably if Restart want to change any Homologated parts they will have to get approval from HARD!

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Presumably if Restart want to change any Homologated parts they will have to get approval from HARD!

From what I've heard they've been changing parts so maybe they've homologated their own design, if that's allowed?

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Greem

Would that be...

https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/15539228

...by any chance?

Correct.

[Streethawk]

Originally Posted by Pickles

So a little bit of background on this whole set-up... Daryl is only in the car as Tony still owes his dad money from last year. So you can bet there's hardly any budget going in to fund the drive. Unlimited Edition was set up by someone else who Tony owes money to, as a way to try and recoup some of £100,000+ he is currently owed. So again, you can bet no money has gone in if Unlimited Edition are going to be a main sponsor. And who owns the one car they currently have? That's right, the same man who set up Unlimited Edition.

Didn't the guy work for the team before?

[Streethawk]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Basically Tony convincing people he owes money to, that if the team keeps running they stand a chance of getting something back. If the team folds they get nothing.

I heard the DeLeon family own the Cupra.

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Streethawk

Didn't the guy behind Unlimited work for the team hence reference elsewhere to Q50, Boardley and Cupra. Now he works for himself.

He now works for the company after it was set up using all the moulds and equipment that HARD had.

[coffinpilot]

Does that mean the second driver will have to bring more money for their seat to offset the owed money that the DeLeon side won't have to put in if the above is all true?

[Streethawk]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/jpkAzqqLQoqfHtGK/

That was for Napa livery reveal. Come on dnt bruise his ego!

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Does that mean the second driver will have to bring more money for their seat to offset the owed money that the DeLeon side won't have to put in if the above is all true?

You'd imagine so, that's how it usually works. Although there might be more money available if there's no more home improvements in the pipeline.

[Pit Lane Lurker]

So….. just to summarise….

Team Hard are running a two car team this year, having not sorted their debt problems at all, and in fact trying to settle a debt by running one of those two cars as a freebie this year.

And we’re expected to believe that ‘lessons have been learned’?!

It’s absolute madness. What could possibly go wrong….

[SV8Predator]

[Millvi]

George Gamble 2024 race season news incoming….

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Pickles

From what I've heard they've been changing parts so maybe they've homologated their own design, if that's allowed?

I thought only the original designer/ builder can Homologate parts. Ie Hard Seat and Dynamics Honda unless the original builder sells the IP on

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by Millvi

George Gamble 2024 race season news incoming….

Can’t see that anywhere?

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Can’t see that anywhere?

Probably because it hasn't been announced yet, but will be soon?