ALMS 2013 Discussion - Page 94

EricS · 11 Jul 2013, 21:34 (Ref:3276776)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Now will the Muscle Milk team consider staying home for at least Mosport? Please do so we can have a real race for overall victory. Otherwise I'll pretend that they don't exist.

Could you imagine the DWang's press releases if that happened? "1st place in LMP1!!! 20th overall, and only completed 30% of the laps, but 1st place in LMP1!!!"

Jonerz · 11 Jul 2013, 22:18 (Ref:3276788)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

Says a lot about how they feel the new series is going to go.

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Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

From all my research in GT and P2 it's cheaper to run full-time in Europe than it is to run the same equipment in North America. I don't know how or why, it just is.

If I didn't have a business to run away from the track I'd have been racing over there this year.

-mike

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Is it a case of overseas (i.e. Europe-based) suppliers and the costs being hiked in the USA because of this?

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Originally Posted by ger80

Dont forget Dyson owns AER - they have an P1 engine but no P2.
Chris might want to race his own engine?

There are fewer races in Europe and you are closer to the suppliers, is my guess. It is strange that you heard that though, Mike. As recently as 2010-2011 I heard a full season in the States, despite having more races than the ILMC/ELMS at the time, was cheaper.

Rather than one small quote about a potential WEC program being looked into (Dyson went to Silverstone this year, that could be a WEC "program" remember), I seem to look at Chris' ongoing vocal support of IMSA, USCR and Scot Elkins and his quotes about best preparing for a shift in the program to suit the USCR in 2014 as pretty clear indications that the 16 car will be on the grid next year and that Dyson Racing as a whole supports the WEC.

Further more, the current AER "MZR-R" (P14?) could reasonably easily be made to fit P2. After all the Judd HK is allowed because it is allegedly a BMW motor. I don't see IMSA becoming sticklers for MZR heritage if it means adding cost to Dyson or losing the entry altogether. When they qualify on pole at Daytona I can see the rest of the P field crying foul and vengefully deriding the potential reliability of the Dyson motor. If Chris doesn't mind going away from AER, they could use the new Skyactiv-D power plant.

Chris

Pandamasque · 12 Jul 2013, 00:12 (Ref:3276824)

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Originally Posted by ger80

Dont forget Dyson owns AER - they have an P1 engine but no P2.
Chris might want to race his own engine?

But have no '14 P1 chassis!

Mechanic Z · 12 Jul 2013, 00:21 (Ref:3276827)

This is a real shame. Dyson was just getting close to Muscle Milk's pace.

gregtummer · 12 Jul 2013, 01:20 (Ref:3276841)

So is the plan still for Dyson to field two LMP1 cars for 5 of the last 6 races?

Purist · 12 Jul 2013, 01:27 (Ref:3276843)

It doesn't look that way.

canamman · 12 Jul 2013, 02:12 (Ref:3276849)

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Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

From all my research in GT and P2 it's cheaper to run full-time in Europe than it is to run the same equipment in North America. I don't know how or why, it just is.

If I didn't have a business to run away from the track I'd have been racing over there this year.

-mike

Interesting. I guess I was thinking the costs of moving team members into lodging and new shop quarters would run it up. Plus you still need to get to Asia , Brazil , & Bahrain. Whew, I see big bills looming. Now it might be
closer to a wash if you compare 8 WEC races compared to a 10 (?)USCR race season. My logic was aimed toward spend the money retrofitting
for the new series where you will eventually find your way back to anyhow.
Dyson needs to get another 24hr Daytona trophy.

cbbrit · 12 Jul 2013, 03:27 (Ref:3276857)

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Originally Posted by EricS

Could you imagine the DWang's press releases if that happened? "1st place in LMP1!!! 20th overall, and only completed 30% of the laps, but 1st place in LMP1!!!"

But would they be classified if they only completed 30% of the laps? You have to complete 70% of the laps to be classified don't you? But I know where you were going with this!

EricS · 12 Jul 2013, 03:38 (Ref:3276862)

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Originally Posted by cbbrit

But would they be classified if they only completed 30% of the laps? You have to complete 70% of the laps to be classified don't you? But I know where you were going with this!

See Don's quote at the bottom of the following after Lime Rock: http://www.deltawingracing.com/news/...ick-start.html "'We’re delighted to finish third in P1,' echoed Dr. Don Panoz"

where they only completed 102 laps compared to MM's 184 (55%)

TF110 · 12 Jul 2013, 03:45 (Ref:3276863)

Its Don afterall, he could ditch the rule for the sake of the car he's running. What a joke that thing is.

jasonjessica09 · 12 Jul 2013, 13:56 (Ref:3276994)

Following up my earlier comments, Muscle Milk should consider skipping Mosport for lack of competition reasons. But no other race becasue Rebellion will be at COTA, Road America, and Petit. And the Dyson/Smith combo will be present at VIR and Baltimore.

dxk1 · 12 Jul 2013, 14:09 (Ref:3276998)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Following up my earlier comments, Muscle Milk should consider skipping Mosport for lack of competition reasons.

In the end, the goal is to win the series, so why pass up free points?

DK

TheMightyM · 12 Jul 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3277039)

Mosport entry list is finally out. 32 cars, down one car from Lime Rock: the #62 Risi Competizione Ferrari.

Brownj · 12 Jul 2013, 17:01 (Ref:3277048)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Mosport entry list is finally out. 32 cars, down one car from Lime Rock: the #62 Risi Competizione Ferrari.

They are still waiting on a major piece to repair the car according to DSC. They will miss the race for sure.

Jonerz · 12 Jul 2013, 18:32 (Ref:3277079)

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Originally Posted by Brownj

They are still waiting on a major piece to repair the car according to DSC. They will miss the race for sure.

So AJR is the last hope for the Reds. Go get 'em Townsend!!!

Chris

JHamilton · 12 Jul 2013, 19:01 (Ref:3277088)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Following up my earlier comments, Muscle Milk should consider skipping Mosport for lack of competition reasons. But no other race becasue Rebellion will be at COTA, Road America, and Petit. And the Dyson/Smith combo will be present at VIR and Baltimore.

If I were going to the race, I would want to see the car.

FLGTFAN · 13 Jul 2013, 01:55 (Ref:3277197)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

If I were going to the race, I would want to see the car.

It really is that simple, possibly the last current era LMP1 car to run at Mosport in the most capable hands. Not to mention the glorious sound it makes...

Mechanic Z · 13 Jul 2013, 03:28 (Ref:3277206)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

If I were going to the race, I would want to see the car.

+1. More about the cars than the show they put on.

Mechanic Z · 13 Jul 2013, 03:36 (Ref:3277209)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Mosport entry list is finally out. 32 cars, down one car from Lime Rock: the #62 Risi Competizione Ferrari.

Feel bad for people in Canada. Bummer to see them have to skip a round. Not a big fan of theirs, but still hate to lose a car for a round.

SPEED article:
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-skip-mosport/

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"We will return ready to compete at Road America in August, and wish all our fellow ALMS entrants a safe event in Canada.”

Hopefully this works out.

Lagunaseca_4life · 13 Jul 2013, 05:10 (Ref:3277214)

so lime rock was the first full race i have seen since sebring, with me going to long beach and laguna and finally got done watching those two yesterday. and i noticed the 62 risi had alot of contact at laguna and long beach, at lime rock too they had contact ending with a serious impact into ajr's gtc. i mean i understand matteo is young and new to the series but beretta is an experienced veteran.i know they are not perfect but that gt has had more contact than any other. is there something possibly off balance with the updated Ferrari? because af course also didnt look very good at le mans either.well its a shame they are going to miss out on mosport but i hope they are ready for road america to get a win.

FstrthnU · 13 Jul 2013, 08:27 (Ref:3277234)

The Ferrari BOP has been a bit off recently, as shown by Le Mans where the Ferraris couldn't match up with the Porsches or Aston Martins.

For Risi specifically, they are basically starting fresh with only a little bit of the experience from 2011-prior. Remember that while they were fast they got into lots of contact and trouble in 2011 too. Beretta seems to have lost his speed and poise ever since he left Corvette Racing, and Malucelli is still very inexperienced.

However, I will note that the Risi Ferrari was running 3rd in GT before it had that last shunt.

I think Risi just needs time to refocus and find the right balances. By the time they're entering Daytona and Sebring next year they should be much better prepared.

Articus · 13 Jul 2013, 09:53 (Ref:3277261)

Does this have anything to do with why Ferrari has taken the GTE program in-house? The Beretta-Malucelli combo just doesn't do that Ferrari justice. Too many errors from Malucelli. Although they were running 3rd they were a lap down.

Koenigsegg · 13 Jul 2013, 13:47 (Ref:3277320)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

The Ferrari BOP has been a bit off recently, as shown by Le Mans where the Ferraris couldn't match up with the Porsches or Aston Martins.

IMSA BOP is different than ACO/FIA BOP. Le Mans has nothing to do with Ferrari performance in ALMS.

TheMightyM · 17 Jul 2013, 13:52 (Ref:3278720)

John Dagys tweets:

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Look for the potential of two new PC entries for Road America.

Salamus · 17 Jul 2013, 21:39 (Ref:3278886)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

John Dagys tweets:

What are the chances that one of these teams is also running Grand-Am this year?

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