Picture Puzzles

[Gerard C]

No worry about the Wimille car, Viv. I wonder how Bob found a pic because it is said that only three were ever made. The one I test-drived belongs to the Rochetaillée museum and nobody can say for sur whether its the #2 or #3! Bob's picture, I guess, is from Reims museum.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

No worry about the Wimille car, Viv. I wonder how Bob found a pic because it is said that only three were ever made. The one I test-drived belongs to the Rochetaillée museum and nobody can say for sur whether its the #2 or #3! Bob's picture, I guess, is from Reims museum.

Great article and pics here: https://viaretro.com/2019/02/wimille...unted-engines/

[rbs]

With the Jaguar questions are talking about the Jaguar history, the C type history or Ecurie Ecosse history?

[Gerard C]

Thanks, well done (was my Dad's pal, because of Amédée…).

[bauble]

Originally Posted by rbs

With the Jaguar questions are talking about the Jaguar history, the C type history or Ecurie Ecosse history?

Come on RBS, why do you think I chose that picture?

[justracing]

I think that I've possibly misunderstood the question and as a consequence have already blotted my copybook so I'm staying out of it, were any of my answers correct Mr Baub?

[Gerard C]

Someone found the link with Monza? (Easy for David Murray and Wilkie Wilkinson).

Bob, if you're looking for June '57 Monzanapolis are you sure it was C Types?

[bauble]

Originally Posted by justracing

I think that I've possibly misunderstood the question and as a consequence have already blotted my copybook so I'm staying out of it, were any of my answers correct Mr Baub?

I should point out what I thought was obvious (It was to Peter) the picture is of a C-Type Jaguar painted in the colours of a Scottish racing team, indeed the name is emblazoned on the car itself. I intended to make people aware of the importance the team had in its day. While asking for the original drivers, few will have heard of them, you might find some very famous names have ben associated with he team over its history. All part of my drive to improve your knowledge of motor sport history.

To your point JR. You scored heavily, but in the wrong lane. I accept I could have made things clearer, but you know me

[justracing]

Originally Posted by bauble

I should point out what I thought was obvious (It was to Peter) the picture is of a C-Type Jaguar painted in the colours of a Scottish racing team, indeed the name is emblazoned on the car itself. I intended to make people aware of the importance the team had in its day. While asking for the original drivers, few will have heard of them, you might find some very famous names have ben associated with he team over its history. All part of my drive to improve your knowledge of motor sport history.

To your point JR. You scored heavily, but in the wrong lane. I accept I could have made things clearer, but you know me

Understood now, it's a useful excercise in attempting to explore the quizmaster's inner cranium as well as the historical facts pertaining to cars and drivers. Must try harder with the caveat that there's more to this than first meets the eye.

[Peter Mallett]

There's all sorts of stuff about this team. A future WDC was given a test at Goodwood(?) When he sat in for his elder brother who was one of the earlier drivers.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

There's all sorts of stuff about this team. A future WDC was given a test at Goodwood(?) When he sat in for his elder brother who was one of the earlier drivers.

Maybe two, Peter, I will have to check.
Have you found the Baronet yet?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by bauble

Maybe two, Peter, I will have to check.
Have you found the Baronet yet?

That is an interesting story. He certainly enjoyed his life. He bought his own C Type and raced under the banner of Ecurie Ecosse. I'm not that clever, I googled it.

[bauble]

I only remembered the name from reports of the Jersey Road Races at the time. Ian Stewart won in 1952 in the Ecosse C-Type. Google supplied details.

So far the only one to have grasped the context of the photo.

Bob.

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by bauble

I only remembered the name from reports of the Jersey Road Races at the time. Ian Stewart won in 1952 in the Ecosse C-Type. Google supplied details.

So far the only one to have grasped the context of the photo.

Bob.

Well done to Bauble for getting this thread going again .

But a little story about C Types which is not known by many .
Moss wanted a higher speed for Le Mans in 1952 [ I Think ] . So a new "Low Drag " body was designed and built . Tested and run on UK tracks , but when it got to Le Mans all of the cars retired with what was claimed to be overheating problems .
What really happened was that they had built a "Wing " car , which was upside down and was trying to take off and became undriveable on Mulsanne .
An expensive piece of testing , and to not give others the information they had learned , it was claimed to be overheating problems .
The cars came back to England and were all destroyed , and the original C Types were put back into use for next time .

[rbs]

Low Drag C type at Goodwood in 2011

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[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by rbs

Low Drag C type at Goodwood in 2011

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Thanks for that picture .
You can see how the long low tail section turns the shape into an aircraft wing the wrong way up .Instead of the turned up tail on cars afterwards .
Probably only at the high speeds on Mulsanne did it actually start to lift off the ground
Fairly sure they destroyed all of the original cars , but did hear that later a few were reproduced because they were then so rare .

[justracing]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Thanks for that picture .
You can see how the long low tail section turns the shape into an aircraft wing the wrong way up .Instead of the turned up tail on cars afterwards .
Probably only at the high speeds on Mulsanne did it actually start to lift off the ground
Fairly sure they destroyed all of the original cars , but did hear that later a few were reproduced because they were then so rare .

Thanks for the information, first time I've heard that

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by justracing

Thanks for the information, first time I've heard that

When you learn a very expensive lesson , as Jaguar did with that body shape , you don,t want to pass it on to your competitors .
So they told a story of overheating problems , or air not going through radiator , or something like that .
As I understood it , they scrapped all of that design bodies after Le Mans . Which I don,t think would happen if it was just a cooling problem , but a realisaton that the shape was wrong for high speed .

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

When you learn a very expensive lesson , as Jaguar did with that body shape , you don,t want to pass it on to your competitors .
So they told a story of overheating problems , or air not going through radiator , or something like that .
As I understood it , they scrapped all of that design bodies after Le Mans . Which I don,t think would happen if it was just a cooling problem , but a realisaton that the shape was wrong for high speed .

I seem to recall that it was rumoured at the time, but never confirmed.

[bauble]

Something simple to tackle;
Six constructors, who is missing and why should they be there?
Nothing devious or tricky, just a little initiative.

[bauble]

I am amazed at the number of views this thread gets on a daily basis, yet we get so few replies, so, here is an entry level teaser hopefully to tempt more participation. Usual rules apply answers by PM only so as not to spoil it for fellow novices, all answers will be acknowledge here, so credit will be given.

Come on you can only make a fool of yourself, and I have done that many times. Good luck.
Who is the odd-one-out, and why?

[bauble]

I must seriously consider my position here! 'Entry Level' I said! Ha Ha Ha.
Two entries a complete novice tempted out, and one of our most prolific responders with a long history of success. Both with correct answers that are wide of the mark, both guilty of over thinking the problem, so! Let's try again.

This is from the 'Mother and Toddler Class'

No pictures to confuse, just six names to sort out, see if you can match four year old Albert from the Pottonsville M&T Group, who had it right first time.

1 Max Verstappen.
2 Louis Hamilton.
3 Fernando Alonso.
4 Sebastien Vettel
5 Jenson Button.
6 Logan Sargeant.

Who has never been World Formula 1 Champion?

Frist 'right' answer will be awarded the very first 'Golden Bauble',

Best of luck.

[Mike Harte]

The problem here, as I see it, is that you keep setting questions that possibly have more than just one correct answer; in fact there could well be multiple correct responses, but not just the one that you fiendishly set!

So what are we mere mortals supposed to do but not answer at all.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

The problem here, as I see it, is that you keep setting questions that possibly have more than just one correct answer; in fact there could well be multiple correct responses, but not just the one that you fiendishly set!

So what are we mere mortals supposed to do but not answer at all.

A dilemma, indeed Mike, but pity the poor quiz master, who after hours of painstaking research, finds some Smarty Pants has come up with a perfectly correct answer, that is far better than the one he had in mind!
Usually the 'right' answer is intended to be the one that is most distinctive, or unusual. How ever it is far better to advance a sensible reply, that even if not 'right' at least demonstrates intelligence and logic than to weakly give up like a right ****** surely?.

I do admire you fighting spirit.

I see my epithet has been censored, I apologise for choosing an unsuitable description for a loser.

[bauble]

Congratulations to St Eval who has been awarded the first for correctly identifying the odd on out in both the last two puzzles.
Well done St.