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Old 16 Feb 2020, 01:55 (Ref:3957774)   #361
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How much of the Oreca thing was a numbers game from the start though, like the Cadillacs in IMSA? I mean, you can be just as fast and reliable, but if you're outnumbered 2.5-6:1, well, it gets a lot tougher, particularly in an endurance racing setting (unless you're Maserati at Caracas in 1957, in which case it just seemed like the Fates had it out for the Trident Badge).

And no, the Ligier has 4 wins in the ELMS, and the Dallara has 1; Dallara also just picked up a win in the AsLMS. So the Orecas/Alpines/Aurus can be beaten.
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How much of the Oreca thing was a numbers game from the start though, like the Cadillacs in IMSA? I mean, you can be just as fast and reliable, but if you're outnumbered 2.5-6:1, well, it gets a lot tougher, particularly in an endurance racing setting (unless you're Maserati at Caracas in 1957, in which case it just seemed like the Fates had it out for the Trident Badge).

And no, the Ligier has 4 wins in the ELMS, and the Dallara has 1; Dallara also just picked up a win in the AsLMS. So the Orecas/Alpines/Aurus can be beaten.
I understand what you're saying but don't agree.

There was no numbers advantage at the start. ELMS had 4 ORECAs in the first season of this generation of cars. Ligier had 5. Dallara had 4. The ORECA is a significantly better car. It has a large performance advantage that cannot be overcome with events aligning to allow lesser performing cars to beat it. Ligier won a Grand Prix, but you'd never say they were as good as Williams or Ferrari when they did it. Teams with Ligiers and Dallaras have dropped those cars to move to ORECA because of the advantage.

Dallara won in AsLMS, but there wasn't a lot of cars, the quality is lower, and it took several incidents for it to occur. It's hardly representative of the current situation. It's the exception which proves the rule. A Dallara win is note-able. An ORECA win is expected.

I'm not a fan of these locked in regulations. It doesn't allow manufacturers to respond. The best product wins and then the regulations force it to become dominant and nobody is allowed to try and beat it.
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 15:00 (Ref:3963892)   #363
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Pre-season test and round 1 at Barcelona postponed. Announcement soon about Monza, scheduled for May 10th but very hard to see that happening.
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Monza has been cancelled.

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Old 1 May 2020, 08:02 (Ref:3973927)   #365
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Looks like that The Castellet will not happen either. The French Ministry of SPort has stated that even events behind close door will be prohibited untill the end of July
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I can see them abandoning this season due to organisers concentrating more on getting the WEC season done
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Bad shunt for Legge leaves her with broken bones in elms testing

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Just saw this in a tweet. Hope she gets well soon!
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Perhaps giving every exclusive spec contract in the world to single greedy French constructor isn't the greatest idea in the world when they can't even make their mass produced products go the intended mileage, with the other million spec deals going on their conveyor belts also taking attention

Also, if it wasn't a standardized spec formula the organizers wouldn't have to artificially screw around with overall regulations and how the races are run when there's a problem with one of the suppliers

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Perhaps giving every exclusive spec contract in the world to single greedy French constructor isn't the greatest idea in the world when they can't even make their mass produced products go the intended mileage, with the other million spec deals going on their conveyor belts also taking attention

Also, if it wasn't a standardized spec formula the organizers wouldn't have to artificially screw around with overall regulations and how the races are run when there's a problem with one of the suppliers
I watched the whole race live (vested interest as my son is spannering one of the cars) and FWIW, the second mandatory stop didn't affect the race to any material extent that I noticed. A tad embarrassing perhaps but it didn't detract from what was actually a very good race. I also like the LMP3s a lot, which helps....
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