|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
21 Sep 2003, 21:22 (Ref:725829) | #1 | ||
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,953
|
Leslie and Bennett dropped!!
Quote:
Wow! I'm suprised Proton aren't retaining Leslie - well infact by looks of things Petronas are the ones who wanted to see this young driver in the BTCC. I wonder whether Leslie will retire, or continue and what Phil Bennett will be up to next year? Farique Hairuman seems to be doing well abroad but surely it's a gamble to put the responsibility of developing the new car on him? As for the second seat - an opportunity perhaps for one of the Indie runners this year ? |
||
|
21 Sep 2003, 23:03 (Ref:725901) | #2 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 8,925
|
Brave move for what is still a car badly in need of development, and the skills of a good development driver.
|
|
|
21 Sep 2003, 23:15 (Ref:725911) | #3 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 1999
Posts: 3,919
|
Hmmm, it is sad to see Leslie and Bennett be let go. OTOH, it depends on what their contract stipulated. Was it just for one year or perhaps one year plus the option to extend it?
|
||
__________________
Supertouring Forever and Ever... |
21 Sep 2003, 23:18 (Ref:725912) | #4 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
IIRC they both had two year contracts. Today's race marked the end of the second year with the team. The second year of a lack of any notable results. Now I'm sure that this was not entirely down to the drivers but it's not really surprising that the team has decided to make changes in that department, is it?
|
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 06:33 (Ref:726018) | #5 | ||
Take That Fan
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,111
|
They have both gone I am quote suprised at that - I had that only one of them had been dropped.
Lets just say I saw one of them in the paddock after the 2nd race yesterday and he didn't look very happy. Last edited by rdjones; 22 Sep 2003 at 06:39. |
||
__________________
There is only one way of life and thats your own ! ! ! |
22 Sep 2003, 06:35 (Ref:726020) | #6 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 532
|
I can understand Bennett, but not leslie. David really helped the team in its first year of racing, got all there top 3 results...etc. Sounds like a bit like Toyota in F1 when they dropped Salo and McNish after their first year with the team. But anyway, that is a surprise...
|
||
__________________
..:: SPARK Motorsport : SPARKS ARE FLYING ::.. "Those that can, do. And those that can't, talk about it." |
22 Sep 2003, 07:39 (Ref:726072) | #7 | ||
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,304
|
No reference to a third car, I wonder why (having seen plenty of examples from the other works teams) they are not entering 3 cars.
The attrition rate in the BTCC is fairly high, compounded by the grid for the 2nd race being made from the result of the 1st, so running 3 cars as factory team is vital IMO. This also enables them to balance the driver line up - like MG for example. |
||
__________________
'I've seen it, but still don't believe it.....' |
22 Sep 2003, 07:52 (Ref:726079) | #8 | ||
Race Official
1% Club
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 46,752
|
And how funny to read the Sep4 edition of Autosport with the team saying how happy they are with the current driving staff....
The lack of continuity into 2004 will be a problem I would have thought, the new guy seems to be a rookie.. David Leslie could have been used as a driver mentor and help shorten the learning curve. A bit of a mess really |
||
__________________
Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods |
22 Sep 2003, 10:22 (Ref:726198) | #9 | ||
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,010
|
I sincerely hope they flounder next year - Leslies a good man and frankly they have **** on him. Not that I'd ever buy one of their pants cars.
|
||
__________________
Andretti, Mario: Auto racing legend owns the rights to an unspecified Spinal Tap song, which he purchased when former manager Ian Faith secretly sold the band’s catalog |
22 Sep 2003, 11:37 (Ref:726275) | #10 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,404
|
Re: Leslie and Bennett dropped!!
Quote:
Unless they've got someone pretty serious already in mind for the other seat, this does seem an odd decision |
||
|
22 Sep 2003, 11:40 (Ref:726280) | #11 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
shocked really, but there are a lack of new manufacturers at the moment so it could mean more astras but leslies been their better driver by far and i think this years results have been a result of the cars not been up to scratch. but we'll have to wait and see if any drivers want to escape to the etcc like priaulx... then we could see them in a works set up, but other than that i dont know where they'll go :confused:
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 11:48 (Ref:726293) | #12 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
Maybe David Leslie was the one who decided to terminate the partnership?
Just remembering back to Saturday and David seemed pretty certain he'd 'be in touring cars next year' (his words) but it was notable he did not say he'd be staying put with Proton. Now it's obvious why! I wonder what he has lined up...? |
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 11:50 (Ref:726296) | #13 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
good point. seems 90% like what youve got theres gonna happen but who???? we could do with a mystery manufacturer !
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 11:51 (Ref:726299) | #14 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
just thought whos taking the second seat at Barwell ???
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 11:56 (Ref:726305) | #15 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
Seat? Would likely do them a good job, but does he fit with their 'young' image? Definately not.
BMW? Possibly. But their car is already well developed so whoever runs them are likely to go with someone with a bit of cash. Unless, of course, a works team is entered but then I'd tip Priaulx to return. Alfa Romeo? Doubt it - same reason as Seat - he just doesn't fit with their 'image' Volvo? Possibly. But there's not even been a serious rumour of them returning... So the rumour of him heading back to Vauxhall seems to have the most substance. But is there actually going to be an opening? If not, maybe he could return to Honda alongside Neal and Morrison? Would make a really good solid team... Only one thing is certain - we'll have to wait and see! As for Bennett - wonder where he'll end up? Wouldn't be surprised to see him switch to GTs? |
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 12:05 (Ref:726309) | #16 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
what about renault - or are they too into their F1 Campaigne?
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 12:28 (Ref:726332) | #17 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
I'd be surprised if a manufacturer were to build a new car especially for the BTCC. I think we're all aware that the BTCC technical-regs are now effectively dead and any new manufacturer is likely to enter the main ETCC championship before entering year-old cars in the BTCC or any other national championship.
Having said that, I reckon the Laguna would make a good looking touring car. |
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 12:42 (Ref:726356) | #18 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
i did make a mock up ic of the laguna tourer new BTCC regs but lost it somewhere - you are right it looked pretty decent
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 12:50 (Ref:726373) | #19 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 723
|
Having been very closely involved with the Clios for the past couple of years, I am pretty certain that you won't see Renault in the BTCC in the near future - their whole motor racing effort is actually geared to supporting their F1 campain. So no drive there for either Leslie or Bennet.
|
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 12:58 (Ref:726383) | #20 | ||
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,304
|
Leslie would make a good fit back at Honda, should there be a place, but the newcomers have impressed everyone so could put pressure on a paid drive for David elsewhere - despite his experience.
I can't see why Vauxhall would want to alter their line up out of choice, missed out on a 1-2-3 in the championship by a whisker. Won the teams and manufacturers title - not sure they could ask for anymore from their drivers. Unless he falls on his feet elsewhere, I guess Phil B is back into the realms of finding a budget to drive or a free drive at the very best. |
||
__________________
'I've seen it, but still don't believe it.....' |
22 Sep 2003, 13:46 (Ref:726442) | #21 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
Tom Chilton has hardly impressed and I can see him stepping down or being 'sold' with the teams cars to an independant team.
|
|
|
22 Sep 2003, 14:35 (Ref:726505) | #22 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 177
|
could do, seemed to be a spare parts magnet did tom
|
||
__________________
"Look at that.... You couldn't kill that vauxhall with a stick - Not a stright Panel left on it!" "Just dragging the remains of the vauxhall down the pit lane - He's turned it into a paperweight" "Can i have a new vauxhall please this ones had it!" <SN 1999> |
22 Sep 2003, 15:15 (Ref:726547) | #23 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 8,925
|
Quote:
Certainly the timing of the announcement seemed odd, or maybe I'm reading too much into that. Anyhow, here's an off-the-wall suggestion for a second driver. If the team need someone with experience, and I think they do, what about a former champion turned TV commentator. He's admitted he is looking to return next year, although he did say it would have to be a competetive car. |
||
|
22 Sep 2003, 15:17 (Ref:726551) | #24 | |||
Racer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 322
|
Tom Chilton
Quote:
|
|||
__________________
Regards, Andrew Metcalf (formerly BTCCnews) "Tomorrow, is what you make it" |
22 Sep 2003, 15:38 (Ref:726579) | #25 | |
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 10,993
|
I'm sure he has improved. It's hard to fail to improve over the course of a season, but he is very short on experience and a season or two in an independant team will do him no end of good. It's worth stating here that I have absolutely no axe to grind with Tom but I just feel it'll be some time before he can do a job to the same level as Leslie or any other of the older drivers.
|
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
David Leslie fans? | kmchow | Touring Car Racing | 16 | 11 Nov 2001 20:49 |
David Leslie Races Again!! | kmchow | Touring Car Racing | 1 | 6 Mar 2001 17:10 |
David Leslie comes to race in US | KC | Touring Car Racing | 7 | 9 Feb 2001 21:59 |
So what is David Leslie doing in 2001? | hunttheshunt | Touring Car Racing | 10 | 3 Feb 2001 17:12 |
David Leslie in the STCC!!! | JMeissner | Touring Car Racing | 7 | 7 Sep 2000 20:18 |