BA breaks record.

billy bigtime · 4 Sep 2006, 04:26 (Ref:1701187)

After yesterdays win the BA Falcon has notched up a record 27 wins, making it the most successful touring car in Australian history

FPV GTHO · 4 Sep 2006, 05:52 (Ref:1701222)

And we've still got another year (at least) of competition out of the BA's.

racer69 · 4 Sep 2006, 06:14 (Ref:1701231)

Aren't they going to rename them BF's next year?

peckstar · 4 Sep 2006, 06:17 (Ref:1701233)

would imagine next year they will move to the BF series two look

FPV GTHO · 4 Sep 2006, 06:53 (Ref:1701249)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

would imagine next year they will move to the BF series two look

BF2 is no different to BF for the XR8, and for the V8 Supercar is no different to the BA.

peckstar · 4 Sep 2006, 06:56 (Ref:1701253)

wouldnt they have the differnt front also

havents een a ba2 xr8 just assumed they would change that around also

FPV GTHO · 4 Sep 2006, 07:08 (Ref:1701261)

No. The bumper has to be changed for the aero kit and the new bits for BF2 dont affect the XR8.

Timu · 4 Sep 2006, 08:53 (Ref:1701330)

I still believe the reign of the VT was more impressive.

8 Calder Park Craig Lowndes 15 Holden Commodore VS Holden Racing Team
9 Hidden Valley Russell Ingall 8 Holden Commodore VT Perkins Motorsport
10 Oran Park Craig Lowndes 15 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
NC Sandown 500 Larry Perkins / Russell Ingall 11 Holden Commodore VT Perkins Motorsport
NC Bathurst 1000 Jason Bright / Steven Richards 4 Ford Falcon EL Stone Brothers Racing

1999-
Round Venue Driver/s Car# Model Team
1 Eastern Creek Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
2 Adelaide Craig Lowndes 1 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
3 Barbagallo Craig Lowndes 1 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
4 Phillip Island Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
5 Hidden Valley Jason Bright 4 Ford Falcon EL Stone Brothers Racing
6 Sandown Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
7 Queensland Garth Tander 34 Holden Commodore VS Garry Rogers Motorsport
8 Calder Park Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
9 Symmons Plains Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
10 Winton Jason Bargwanna 35 Holden Commodore VT Garry Rogers Motorsport
11 Oran Park Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
12 Queensland 500 Larry Perkins / Russell Ingall 11 Holden Commodore VT Perkins Motorsport
13 Bathurst 1000 Steven Richards / Greg Murphy 7 Holden Commodore VT Gibson Motor Sport

2000-
Round Venue Driver/s Car# Model Team
1 Phillip Island Garth Tander 34 Holden Commodore VT Garry Rogers Motorsport
2 Barbagallo Craig Lowndes 1 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
3 Adelaide Garth Tander 34 Holden Commodore VT Garry Rogers Motorsport
4 Eastern Creek Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
5 Hidden Valley Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
6 Canberra Steven Richards 7 Holden Commodore VT Gibson Motor Sport
7 Queensland Craig Lowndes 1 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
8 Winton Jason Bargwanna 35 Holden Commodore VT Garry Rogers Motorsport
9 Oran Park Mark Skaife 2 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
10 Calder Park Steven Richards 7 Holden Commodore VT Gibson Motor Sport
11 Queensland 500 Craig Lowndes / Mark Skaife 1 Holden Commodore VT Holden Racing Team
12 Sandown Paul Radisich 18 Ford Falcon AU Dick Johnson Racing
13 Bathurst 1000 Garth Tander / Jason Bargwanna 34 Holden Commodore VT Garry Rogers Motorsport

Being the geek I am ive compiled a list of round winners since 1993 when the V8s started...

This is a list of races starting from the 98' Calder round when Greg Murphy gave the VT its debut for HRT, and ending before the VX was sworn in at the Start of the 01' season. Note that Paul Morris gave the VT another win in the 2001 season fittingly at what was Calders final meeting as a V8SC circuit.

dsg · 4 Sep 2006, 08:59 (Ref:1701337)

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Originally Posted by Timu

I still believe the reign of the VT was more impressive.

Also a possibility the AU was so bad.

HRT433 · 5 Sep 2006, 10:22 (Ref:1702170)

Convenient for them to be still racing the "BA", even though the "BF" has been onsale for plenty long enough...

If they want to play that game, why don't we add together the victories by the VT and VX...

F J Nedos · 5 Sep 2006, 10:33 (Ref:1702175)

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Originally Posted by HRT433

Convenient for them to be still racing the "BA", even though the "BF" has been onsale for plenty long enough...

If they want to play that game, why don't we add together the victories by the VT and VX...

Might as well add the VY and VZ too... still the same car underneath... they can change the appearance easily enough (like hrt did at the gold coast in 04 to skaife's car)

Conrod Kieron · 5 Sep 2006, 10:49 (Ref:1702196)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRT433

Convenient for them to be still racing the "BA", even though the "BF" has been onsale for plenty long enough...

If they want to play that game, why don't we add together the victories by the VT and VX...

What game is that?
If it was entered as a VT then its counted as a VT win, if its entered as a VX the obviously its a VX win. Same applies to the BA, can't change history.

As for the VT era being impressive, on the surgace yes it was but anyone who witnessed that era would have known full well that the AU was nobbled and this led directly to project blueprint.

The BA is clearly up against far stiffer competition than the VT ever was, which logically means the BA reign is more impressive. This also includes being more impressive than the Sierra days, which (like the VT) was like taking candy from a baby

Timu · 5 Sep 2006, 10:54 (Ref:1702202)

Its amazing that 8 seasons on, theres still a few competitive AUs kicking round in the Fujitsu series! Not a VT or VX in sight though...

Although some of the "VZ" chassis started out as VTs as far back as 1999...

Gaz170 · 5 Sep 2006, 11:15 (Ref:1702224)

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Originally Posted by Timu

Its amazing that 8 seasons on, theres still a few competitive AUs kicking round in the Fujitsu series! Not a VT or VX in sight though...

Although some of the "VZ" chassis started out as VTs as far back as 1999...

The AU was always a good car for a couple of laps. It was just that to get them to go fast they chewed the tyres, and to get them to last they went slow.

The shorter races of the Fujitsu series suit the AU more than the Supercar rounds ever did.

Conrod Kieron · 6 Sep 2006, 04:55 (Ref:1702903)

A few things going for the AU in the Fujitsu series -

In 2003, the AU was finally given a parity adjustment via a lip extension to its front bar - to late for the main game of course.

The main game Ford teams ran the AU's so had a big advantage over the privateer Holden runners.

VT/X's could be converted to VY's, so no decent Holden tin made it to the development series.

Gaz is also right about the AU being good over shorter races. The AU's main problem was lack of front grip, iirc it had something like 16kg's of aero downforce vs something like triple that in the VT/X. Mechanical grip could compensate for it (more positive front camber) but at the expense of tyre wear/failure over longer races.

tiko · 6 Sep 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1703069)

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Originally Posted by billy bigtime

After yesterdays win the BA Falcon has notched up a record 27 wins, making it the most successful touring car in Australian history

Yeah but apparently the BA is, from a parity standpoint, not even with the VZ!? I think this makes it pretty clear.

Grimace · 6 Sep 2006, 11:24 (Ref:1703191)

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Originally Posted by billy bigtime

After yesterdays win the BA Falcon has notched up a record 27 wins, making it the most successful touring car in Australian history

CONGRATULATIONS on this record for BA FALCON and many many more to come for 2006 making it unassailable!

sizzle · 7 Sep 2006, 02:15 (Ref:1703886)

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Originally Posted by tiko

Yeah but apparently the BA is, from a parity standpoint, not even with the VZ!? I think this makes it pretty clear.

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