F1 is on drugs?

Kalevi · 31 May 2002, 10:23 (Ref:301257)

Just read an news article @pitpass.com that concerned possibilities for Tomas Scheckter to return to F1. This one particular argument sounded very unexpected and confusing to me:

Quote:

part of the article:
... In 2001, and with a Jaguar test in his pocket it looked as though Tomas was heading for the big time. However a moment of off-track silliness meant that Jaguar dropped him like a hot potato, typical F1™ hypocrisy when you consider that one team boss is a known user of cocaine!...

Does this mean that boss of Jaguar is a known user of cocaine or one team boss in F1 is a known cocaine user? Who?

Maybe you guys and girls have discussed this here before but I personally haven't ever before heard that at least one team is run under leadership of a hard drug user. Could somebody either verify or deny this very disturbing argument.

What do you think? I hope this is just somebody making a very bad joke.

Wrex · 31 May 2002, 10:38 (Ref:301281)

Well, I have to warn anyone that answers that I'll delete it. Unfortunatley, this 'legally speaking' would put us in a spot of bother.

As for your answer, it is most likely specualtion, or a grudge. But who knows, it's very possible. When you think of all the names, should'nt be too hard to guess either.

Glen · 31 May 2002, 11:18 (Ref:301326)

Well, I don't know or care who it is. But cocaine is very commonplace in big money circles. So what?

**Stephen Green** · 31 May 2002, 12:10 (Ref:301383)

I'm guessing here, but I would think "supermodel" for a hidden clue?

The article suggests it's a team principle, not Jaguars principle.

paul-collins · 31 May 2002, 12:47 (Ref:301440)

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Originally posted by Glen
...cocaine is very commonplace in big money circles. So what?

Well, the law is the law. Why was Scheckter dropped for his dalliance with a prostitute if not for legal reasons? Optics? Are you saying that F1 would look bad for association with prostitutes but ok for association with drug dealers? Or is it just that the juniors should earn their stripes before flouting the law?

FWIW, I think that drug use is a medical issue, not a legal one, and that North American law is a joke on this matter. But I also think it's ridiculous to criminalize the "world's oldest profession." If it doesn't go away when it's illegal, it's clearly here to stay. It's up to society to then find a way to make it safer for those involved and those affected, I say.

But, as Socrates would say, "I know nothing except that I know nothing."

paul-collins · 31 May 2002, 12:49 (Ref:301441)

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Green
...The article suggests it's a team principle, not Jaguars principle.

And a highly principalled group they be!

(Sorry, couldn't help the spelling post)

**Stephen Green** · 31 May 2002, 12:56 (Ref:301454)

Cheers Paul, must get the dictionery out next time. Maybe we should ask Craig to instal a spell-check to ten-tenths lol

DNQ · 31 May 2002, 13:05 (Ref:301463)

I read that it is.....Ooops, can't say for legal reasons

f1manoz · 31 May 2002, 13:32 (Ref:301507)

Quote:

Originally posted by Glen
Well, I don't know or care who it is. But cocaine is very commonplace in big money circles. So what?

No excuse. It's an illegal drug. Whoever it is should be caught and put in rehab!!

TimD · 31 May 2002, 14:25 (Ref:301570)

Official word of caution here. I've just removed a post that names an alleged drug-taker. Such speculation is not going to stand on this site.

paulzinho · 31 May 2002, 15:25 (Ref:301625)

How about death sentances for drug dealers?

They are the real scum of the earth.

Liz · 31 May 2002, 16:07 (Ref:301692)

If they didn't have any customers, they'd go out of business. Paul Collins is right on this one -- if people want it, people will sell it. Which doesn't mean it makes sense to use it, sell it, or legalize it [the "traction control" excuse: if we can't police it we have to legalize it. Phooey.]

But unless you've seen someone yourself using or selling, you'd better not speculate. Besides getting sued by an innocent man, you may get on the 'hit list' of a guilty one!

Bibendum · 31 May 2002, 16:19 (Ref:301719)

I like Paul Collins comments without exception; what a luxury of efficiency it is to be able to write that about another post!

As for death sentances [sic] for dealers, paulzinho, I don't quite get the connection to the discussion; nobody so far as I know has suggested that a team principal is a dealer!

Anyway, a more productive approach, obviously, is to drag their brains out through their nostrils with a boat-hook (in the most humanely rehabilitative way, of course), sell off the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc.

paulzinho · 31 May 2002, 16:23 (Ref:301723)

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Originally posted by Bibendum

As for death sentances [sic] for dealers, paulzinho, I don't quite get the connection to the discussion; nobody so far as I know has suggested that a team principal is a dealer!

It was just in response to some suggestions of rehab for users. Sorry for any confusion!

botsquad · 31 May 2002, 16:34 (Ref:301730)

wow....
this thread is so seventies....
it's so seventies....
i can almost begin to remember where i was....

yes....it cindy sherman's thirtyith birthday party...
a man who was famous in the 60's is trying to get past security.

it's uncomfortable.

im swizziling wild turkey......it soothes the coke jitters.

Alan Jones · 31 May 2002, 20:29 (Ref:301843)

Aaaah Botsquad, maybe one line too many my friend?

R · 31 May 2002, 22:58 (Ref:301952)

Quote:

Originally posted by Liz
if people want it, people will sell it. Which doesn't mean it makes sense to ... legalize it

Just can't help noting this statement from a libertarian... not that this is a political discussion or The Gravel Trap or anything...

Anyways... watch your steps in this thread, ladies and gents - we might have to pull it if comments become unsuitable.

f1manoz · 1 Jun 2002, 00:26 (Ref:302043)

Quote:

Originally posted by paulzinho
How about death sentances for drug dealers?

They are the real scum of the earth.

Actually Paul, it was more of a tongue-in-cheek comment because that's all they ever seem to do with drug users - put them in rehab.

Now as for the dealers, I don't think that can be dicussed on a family forum. I can think of quite a few acts to perform on them that should not be seen in public.

Sodemo · 1 Jun 2002, 14:35 (Ref:302335)

For me at least, drugs are an evil in this world that will never go away.
Legalisation could be the key, but would that increase useage?
All in all I think that if there has been a team member using drugs, it is doube-standards.
Variables in this case are few and far between its either legal or illegal.
In any case surely this is a matter for the police authorities and not for anyone like the FIA to do anything with.
Only the person in question can answer to this, if you read between the lines and look deeper into the hidden subtext, you may find out who it is.

Any clues??

R · 1 Jun 2002, 14:39 (Ref:302338)

If anyone mentions any names, it will be deleted. This is a serious matter.

f1manoz · 1 Jun 2002, 15:00 (Ref:302343)

If this team boss is a known user, why isn't anything happening to that person involved????

Alan Jones · 1 Jun 2002, 18:28 (Ref:302434)

Does it really matter ?

Number Juan · 1 Jun 2002, 19:21 (Ref:302455)

not really, we all know roughly who it could be but hey, c'est la vie. it was commonplace in the eighties everywhere and i guess its still popular in the glamour and glitz of F1 and big business.

Wrex · 2 Jun 2002, 08:08 (Ref:302680)

I dont think this thread is really going anywhere. So the lock goes on. *click*

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