Drivers are commodities to any team - Page 2

Joe Taylor · 24 Aug 2005, 22:51 (Ref:1390556)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

And the TGF thing has (thankfully, IMO) almost died out.

It's still mentioned in the FAQ section on abbreviations

Valve Bounce · 25 Aug 2005, 01:07 (Ref:1390621)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Murray made a slip of the tongue and called him that once.

It doesn't really explain why you have to call him it every single time rather than ever use his name.

And the TGF thing has (thankfully, IMO) almost died out.

The same reason why I call James Hird "Hirdy", Mark Riscuitto "Roo", Mathew Lloyd "Loydie", Shane Warne "Warnie", Michael Clark "Pup", Jeff Thomson, "Froggy", Brett Lee "Bing Lee", Jason Ackermanis "Acker" and any umpire :"You Bloody Idiot".

If you find this upsetting, I have the perfect solution for you: Don't read my posts!! Just put me on your "ignore" list.

Valve Bounce · 25 Aug 2005, 01:23 (Ref:1390625)

..........or Ralf "Ralfie" or Montoya "Monty" or "JPM" or Adam Gilchrist "Gilly" or Ponting "Punter" or Gillespie"Dizzy".........I can go on if you would like more examples.

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BSchneiderFan · 25 Aug 2005, 09:56 (Ref:1390826)

Please don't.

Valve Bounce · 25 Aug 2005, 10:10 (Ref:1390833)

Isn't it wonderful that fourm members who have been here for only a short while like to dictate to those who have been here much, much longer what they should or should not say here??

This is the responsibility of the moderators and for those who feel offended, there is a perfectly good avenue of recourse to redress their dislikes.

BSchneiderFan · 25 Aug 2005, 10:22 (Ref:1390839)

If that was directed at me, V-B, it was a joke. You said "I could go on..", I said "Please don't". If it wasn't, well, ignore the previous sentences.

Valve Bounce · 25 Aug 2005, 10:31 (Ref:1390847)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

If that was directed at me, V-B, it was a joke. You said "I could go on..", I said "Please don't". If it wasn't, well, ignore the previous sentences.

No mate!! but if you look further up on this thread, you will see what I mean.
I have absolutely no problem with your post - I was bloody pedantic, wasn't I?

BSchneiderFan · 25 Aug 2005, 11:50 (Ref:1390913)

OK, no problem, V-B. I was probably being oversensitive.

Hip Priest · 25 Aug 2005, 12:47 (Ref:1390954)

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Isn't it wonderful that fourm members who have been here for only a short while like to dictate to those who have been here much, much longer what they should or should not say here??

I'm sorry if i offended you. It wasn't meant personally, i just find that nickname irritating.

Anyway, i'm going way off topic here....

Valve Bounce · 26 Aug 2005, 01:00 (Ref:1391453)

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Originally Posted by Hip Priest

I'm sorry if i offended you. It wasn't meant personally, i just find that nickname irritating.

Well, please give me absolution. What will my penance be

Snrub · 26 Aug 2005, 01:43 (Ref:1391457)

I remember reading something with quotes from Frank Williams. He basically said that HHF was the most sensative driver that he'd ever met and that he was better than his performances at Williams.

I don't think Williams can be blamed for JV, but they've certainly not done themselves any favors. Paying a driver a few million more to keep them rather than changing drivers makes sense. No one would leave Williams only for an extra million or so and give up the chance to win. That way the team could have its cake and eat it too. They really don't seem to be good with most drivers. Hill going from Williams to Arrows was almost too much to take. Mansell left for Champ Car, which isn't conceivable today.

Oddly both Ralf and JPM did better at Williams. I don't think Williams extracted the best from either of them, but at both are really struggling at their new teams. I think viewing a driver as a commodity is a mistake. Why do some drivers perform completely differently on different teams? eg. Why was Fisi closer to Alonso last year in a Sauber than he is this year in the same car? Obviously there's more to a team than simply having good people, they have to work together. That's why HHF looked useless in Williams one year and a worthy WDC in a Jordan the next!

Kicking-back · 26 Aug 2005, 05:14 (Ref:1391503)

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Originally Posted by Snrub

Oddly both Ralf and JPM did better at Williams. I don't think Williams extracted the best from either of them, but at both are really struggling at their new teams.

I wouldn't say JPM is struggling.

He's generally as good as or better than he was at Williams.

It's just that he's now got a superstar team-mate.

Hip Priest · 26 Aug 2005, 07:53 (Ref:1391568)

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Well, please give me absolution. What will my penance be

Ah well, i tried to apologise. I guess you can't win 'em all

Valve Bounce · 26 Aug 2005, 08:52 (Ref:1391610)

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Originally Posted by Hip Priest

Ah well, i tried to apologise. I guess you can't win 'em all

No need!! nothing to apologise for. I just like to lighten things up in any serious situation. That's why I had the smilie (well he wasn't really smiling) there.

It was a pun on your nick - get it?

Hip Priest · 26 Aug 2005, 10:20 (Ref:1391686)

Oh yeah, i can see the joke now. No worries

**Adam43** · 26 Aug 2005, 10:31 (Ref:1391699)

This bickering is pointless and so is the thread now.

Closed.

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