Merger talks again? - Page 3

thebear · 23 Mar 2006, 19:26 (Ref:1558902)

Here we go, merger AGAIN!

Click HERE for all the latest.

paul-collins · 23 Mar 2006, 20:22 (Ref:1558954)

Hell yeah.

These guys sound like adults.

Dutton · 23 Mar 2006, 20:48 (Ref:1558970)

Another step forward,

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enemy-ace · 24 Mar 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1559958)

While I think it is terrific news that they are talking, I do have some concern over the new formulae idea.
As we all know Champ Car is getting an all new chassis next season. If a new unified series is going to start fresh again what happens to the new for '07 cars? What potential new team is going to commit to purchasing a '07 panoz if there is the risk of it becoming obsolete?
Personally I think they should fastrack the merger idea and get it implemented for '07. Use the new Champ Car chassis specs for a unified series, it would be new to teams from both series. Or at least have the IRL teams adapt the same specs for '07 in the hopes of a future merger.
I fear these talks could really derail Champ Car's growth.

racinthestreets · 24 Mar 2006, 23:20 (Ref:1559986)

Well said enemy ace. The chasis would be new to both series. And, why not work out a way to bring in both engines - Honda and Ford with Cosworth. Honda does know what a turbo is afterall. Fast forward to 2007.

esorniloc · 25 Mar 2006, 09:33 (Ref:1560183)

Although it may look good for a merger, it may already be too late for 2007. It may be 2008 before it actually happens.
If that were the case would ChampCar bother with the 07 car, given that they would need another in 08?

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1560344)

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...603250480/1052

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 13:39 (Ref:1560352)

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/indycar/auto/22730/

RaceFreak · 25 Mar 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1560403)

It's gonna happen. IRL's car-count, TV numbers, and bank balance is running low. Champ Car isn't much better. Merge or perish; it's that simple.

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 16:29 (Ref:1560407)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/s...orts-headlines

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 16:33 (Ref:1560408)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/14182757.htm

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 16:37 (Ref:1560409)

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/03/25/Sp...Champ_Ca.shtml

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 16:41 (Ref:1560411)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...SECTION=SPORTS

muggle not · 25 Mar 2006, 16:49 (Ref:1560412)

Quote:

Originally Posted by climb

well I'm not really sure the current Nascar's success depends only on Open wheel troubles; nascar are succesful themselves.
If C-C and IRL reunite it'll be good for OW, but I don't think nascar have to be too afraid of it.

There is a lot of rumbling and dis-satisfaction by the Nascar fans. I think the time is ripe for a good unified open wheel series to make significant in-roads in to the Nascar market. Many fans are sick of Brian's re-making of the Nascar series into nothing but a "show" for the TV crowd. I hope they do merge and give us Nascar fans another racing series to watch. I would probably watch less Nascar and more open wheel, especially on the road tracks. Don't get me wrong, I am a nascar fan but would easily stop watching the races on the 'cookie-cutter" tracks and watch the open wheel instead.

indycool · 25 Mar 2006, 17:00 (Ref:1560416)

http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Oth...05172-sun.html

courageous · 25 Mar 2006, 17:23 (Ref:1560424)

I don't normally like getting involved in merger threads (I am a natural pessemist, plus they always end up in sectarian slagging matches), but the indycar website itself has an article on it's front page - would they do that if the talks weren't serious?

http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=6173

(mods: is there any way of linking the indycar & ccws forum threads on this?)

indycool · 26 Mar 2006, 12:06 (Ref:1561292)

Penske speaks:

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2621678.html

(If you just get the home page, click on it and it goes to the story.)

mountainstar · 27 Mar 2006, 05:50 (Ref:1561942)

Penske has a point. Everyone who has talked to george for 15 years has been talking to a brick wall. No reason why this time would be any different.

paul-collins · 27 Mar 2006, 14:32 (Ref:1562371)

Penske's read is important, of course, but this time around instead of people talking to TG, TG is an active participant. He's gone from having the attitude that someone should sell him on the concept, to having the attitude that the concept is strong but the execution must be right. That's a step forward for the OW world, IMO.

okeefe · 6 Apr 2006, 23:52 (Ref:1572688)

I like very much what SB, PT and Vasser had to say about this issue - and I see their speaking on the matter the way they did as true sportsmanship becoming for the good of the sport. Just thought I'd throw this in - I think that was true class and guts, and I'm more proud now than ever to have watched them race in the races I've seen them race in.

Amar7605 · 7 Apr 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1573261)

At least the team owners want unification, and now we are at the point where the series owners want it as well. At least both sides are talking and are on the same wavelength.

gttouring · 8 Apr 2006, 01:22 (Ref:1573559)

it really would be a mega win win superseries...and if that's fixed who know who else willl come on board..

indycool · 8 Apr 2006, 09:47 (Ref:1573713)

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/22964/

IMO, the talk is far ahead of the action.

luke · 8 Apr 2006, 10:29 (Ref:1573736)

Its good that we have continued discussion from Champ Car about a merger but I would much rather this weekend they focused on the rcing and what they need to do. This race is one of their biggest races!

indycool · 8 Apr 2006, 10:43 (Ref:1573750)

Amen, Luke, we agree on one!

Long Beach is CC's premier race, not a bully pulpit for merger talk. From past practice, IMO, TG won't let Indy become that.

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