Formula Le Mans LMS feeder series - Page 4

JohnMiller · 19 Nov 2008, 22:30 (Ref:2337993)

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Originally Posted by zac510

12 months according to this:
http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...pendix_L_a.pdf

Don't know the value, but compared to the cost of the others series here you could potentially have it for circa Â£200k.

Point being if you don't go staright to F1 you will lose the automatic right to the licence anyway.

A cynic might also notice that the FIA puts up the Superlicence fee massively and then all of a sudden grants Championships automatic qualification - like the Spanish F3 Champion.

HORNDAWG · 19 Nov 2008, 22:32 (Ref:2337996)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

ALMS got IMSA Lites. I don't really see why it needs to be replaced (but then I don't see why this class is needed. Things work well as they are right now).

Re-tooled is more of what is in need, maybe. Meld both together for this side of the pond. Phase a new Elan built Formula Lemans spec P-car in with the current Lights 1 DP-02 (w/power upgrades) and add in GT-3 and possibly GT-4 and then phase out the IMSA Lights1 DP-02 single seater with fenders. The largest concern being cost control, and Elans DP-02 is not that far removed from where it would need to be, it seems.

L.P.

zac510 · 19 Nov 2008, 22:38 (Ref:2338004)

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Originally Posted by JohnMiller

Point being if you don't go staright to F1 you will lose the automatic right to the licence anyway.

A cynic might also notice that the FIA puts up the Superlicence fee massively and then all of a sudden grants Championships automatic qualification - like the Spanish F3 Champion.

I see what you mean now. It raises the profile of the championship a little bit but devalues the licence at the same time.

**FIRE** · 20 Nov 2008, 11:39 (Ref:2338258)

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Originally Posted by zac510

One of the carrots dangled in the new Formula2 series is that the top 3 drivers are automatically granted an FIA Superlicence. As an upcoming driver that would be an awesome thing to get in the bag early. It's a bit nicer than just some cash.

Maybe the ACO can offer something like that, but I can't think of something right now!

Did a superlicence help Chanoch Nissany?

There are plenty of drivers who have a superlicence but are turned down by F1 teams in favor of young talented drivers. Superlicenses are overrated.

BTW You don't need a superlicence to drive a LMP1.

zac510 · 20 Nov 2008, 11:57 (Ref:2338266)

I'm not arguing the worth of an FIA superlicence, I'm suggesting that this LMS feeder might offer something more than a cheque and a dinky trophy for the winner if it is to cement itself as a sportscar feeder.

**FIRE** · 28 Nov 2008, 17:18 (Ref:2343415)

Formula Le Mans Cup launch:
http://www.endurance-info.com/articl...d=6811&thold=0

Car looks nice but I am still not convinced it will be a success.

Aslak Vind · 29 Nov 2008, 08:05 (Ref:2343706)

Looks great, that car

Lets see, the main problem is the enourmous entry fee.

alwayswatching · 30 Nov 2008, 02:19 (Ref:2344083)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Looks great, that car

Lets see, the main problem is the enourmous entry fee.

What exactly, is the enormous entry fee? Just curious.

Aslak Vind · 30 Nov 2008, 07:43 (Ref:2344123)

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Originally Posted by alwayswatching

What exactly, is the enormous entry fee? Just curious.

249.000 Euro for a feeder series

Aslak Vind · 30 Nov 2008, 07:46 (Ref:2344124)

Just saw the video of the shakedown, that Corvette engine sounds rather good

Competent people behind this project.

http://www.formula-lemans.com/index.html

mariantic · 30 Nov 2008, 08:43 (Ref:2344139)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

249.000 Euro for a feeder series

The 249,000 euros refered to here http://www.formula-lemans.com/teams_informations.html
is the price of the car.

Mariantic

Aslak Vind · 30 Nov 2008, 08:45 (Ref:2344140)

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Originally Posted by mariantic

The 249,000 euros refered to here http://www.formula-lemans.com/teams_informations.html
is the price of the car.

Mariantic

Well, well..

Then I obviously got something wrong..

Would you care to answer the question?

alwayswatching · 30 Nov 2008, 14:08 (Ref:2344233)

Just wondering if this car & engine would be eligible to compete in the ALMS, in P2?

JAG · 30 Nov 2008, 15:33 (Ref:2344271)

It is very similar, they even have an '09 spec rear wing.

Depending on how entries play out, whether there's a future for GT1 etc, I could well see these cars competing within the main LMS race.

Too many if's and but's ATM.

HORNDAWG · 30 Nov 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2344337)

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Originally Posted by mariantic

The 249,000 euros refered to here http://www.formula-lemans.com/teams_informations.html
is the price of the car.

Mariantic

By having Michelin as a single tire supplier it will probably make the cost there easy to manage while having the best P-car tire available, also getting on the podium gets your tires comp'ed for that race.

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 30 Nov 2008, 18:15 (Ref:2344345)

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Originally Posted by alwayswatching

Just wondering if this car & engine would be eligible to compete in the ALMS, in P2?

Not by ACO rule. And probably not by the ALMS either, but...
4.5L is maximum for P-2 for 09' through the 11' rule set, at the moment.

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 30 Nov 2008, 23:26 (Ref:2344512)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Well, well..

Then I obviously got something wrong..

Would you care to answer the question?

It seems that the series will cost €25,000 per car + 500 per driver per race. From DSC article.

L.P.

alwayswatching · 1 Dec 2008, 01:44 (Ref:2344577)

Under $32,000 per car?..........500, 500 what, K?

Can't see those prices stacking up for what it is and what it will cost to run.

HORNDAWG · 1 Dec 2008, 02:32 (Ref:2344593)

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayswatching

Under $32,000 per car?..........500, 500 what, K?

Can't see those prices stacking up for what it is and what it will cost to run.

Huh? Why don't you try and be clear in what you mean! Heck the ALMS series entrant fee for a season is $25,000 per car.

Oh, and what was the monetary unit symbolized in my previous post? I thought for sure that it was understood, as it was converted to dollars using the current (approx) exchange rate.

L.P.

Mal · 1 Dec 2008, 08:08 (Ref:2344701)

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Originally Posted by alwayswatching

Just wondering if this car & engine would be eligible to compete in the ALMS, in P2?

I guess the answer to that is - Not yet.

If car numbers dwindle dramatically a change in position is always possible.

ger80 · 28 Dec 2008, 15:56 (Ref:2361882)

Who will go to NEC to have a look on the car?

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The Prototype at the “Autosport International of Birmingham”!

From January 8 to 11 2009, the Formula Le Mans will be exhibited at the Autosport International of Birmingham.

JohnMiller · 27 Feb 2009, 21:14 (Ref:2405670)

I went to Ricard yesterday with 3 drivers, and the car is absolutely awesome. Genuine LMP2 car with a big V8 in it.

One of our F3 drivers did a 2:01.1 in just 8 laps, on old rubber. The ORECA LMP1s with Panis and Monteiro et al were doing 1:54s at the same time on race runs!

HORNDAWG · 27 Feb 2009, 21:42 (Ref:2405694)

Stellar. How does the car compare performance wise to Gavin's charge of last season? Or did you get to take any of that in? Best of luck in the coming season and beyond. Have you decided on a livery yet? Did not see any photos of it in the gallery.

L.P.

JohnMiller · 27 Feb 2009, 21:47 (Ref:2405696)

Hi mate, probably about 4 secs off top P2 pace around most tracks. For 15% cost... Win this and you will almost certainly be picked up I reckon.

The359 · 27 Feb 2009, 22:52 (Ref:2405731)

Wait, Monteiro was driving an Oreca LMP1?

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