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| Mario Dominguez |
   
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3 | 37.50% |
| Mario Dominguez |
  
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5 | 62.50% |
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19 May 2002, 01:05 (Ref:289840)
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Rookie of the Year
Who do you think will win Rookie-of-the-Year?
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19 May 2002, 03:28 (Ref:289871)
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Macdaddy,
(laughing) This is the best poll ever! It should be called "Episode I - The Attack of The Clones". I will vote for... Mario Dominguez! Hopefully next year CART will be stronger, with a more numerous field. Cheers, |
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19 May 2002, 05:18 (Ref:289901)
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Townsend Bell...
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19 May 2002, 06:58 (Ref:289922)
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Townsend Bell , if he can keep his car on the road and stop crashing
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19 May 2002, 14:57 (Ref:289978)
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I don't think that CART is recognizing Bell as a rookie. According to the standings on their website, the only one is Dominguez, and his name is listed alone in the "Rookie-of-the-Year" standings.
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19 May 2002, 15:38 (Ref:290003)
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Well Townsend hasn't scored anything so far this year has he? Then again, he did a couple of races last year so maybe they're not listing him as a rookie. :confused:
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19 May 2002, 21:13 (Ref:290080)
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Nope, CART is not considering Townsend Bell as a rookie.
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20 May 2002, 11:41 (Ref:290176)
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Jim Brown
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20 May 2002, 12:52 (Ref:290291)
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Mario has only got 2 votes
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20 May 2002, 21:31 (Ref:290858)
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Townsend Bell is most definitely considered a Rookie in 2002, he only has two starts prior to 2002.
I am 100% positive about this.... He is not listed in the rookie of the year standings on the CART web page for the simple reason that he has not scored any points yet. |
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20 May 2002, 23:43 (Ref:290961)
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...But there's no "(R)" beside his name, either.
http://www.cart.com/Standings.asp |
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21 May 2002, 00:09 (Ref:290982)
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macdaddy, look again at the link you just posted. Bell is not listed at all, with an (R) or otherwise. He has no points yet.
For you doubters, here is the definition of a "rookie" from CART's Rule Book. 14.9. ROOKIE. CART defines a rookie driver to be one who has not competed in more than two CART Champ Car events in any one season or more than five in his career. Bell has competed on only two events, not more than two. Therefore he retains his rookie status And here is an exerpt from Bell's own website Bell is considered a preseason favorite for CART “Rookie of the Year” honors as well as the CART Championship and an exerpt from the Monterrey race Report from CART.com Bell also ran two races for Visteon/Patrick Racing in 2001, both on ovals. Bad weather cancelled qualifying at both events forcing the native of California to start from the back of the field. However, the resident of San Luis Obispo, California showed his mettle by finishing 13th in his CART debut at the German 500K at EuroSpeedway in Lausitz, Germany and 12th, earning his first CART Championship point, at Rockingham in Corby, England. Because he only ran two CART races last year, Bell retains his rookie status. Last edited by SevenGrain; 21 May 2002 at 00:10. |
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21 May 2002, 00:11 (Ref:290983)
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Thanks, SevenGrain!
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21 May 2002, 00:11 (Ref:290984)
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This Townsend Bell thing had me curious, so I looked into the rule book...
14.9. ROOKIE. CART defines a rookie driver to be one who has not competed in more than two CART Champ Car events in any one season or more than five in his career. And Townsend only competed in the two European events, so by rights he should be regarded as a rookie. Why CART's homepage doesn't recognize that is a mystery... |
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21 May 2002, 00:30 (Ref:291004)
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While browsing through the rulebook, I found another one that I didn't know existed.
THE 110% RULE: 6.17.1. In addition to the requirements set forth herein, a race car or driver that has not demonstrated the ability to run with consistency and safety with other competitors during practice or qualifying for an event at a speed greater than one hundred ten percent (110%) of the average of the best times posted by the two (2) fastest qualified race cars and drivers during that competition, may be denied a starting position for that competition by the Chief Steward. Only two (2) byes will be permitted per year per entrant, and a driver upon a third failure to meet such requirement per racing season will sustain a loss of driving privilege until the driver proves himself sufficiently competitive. Sorry to bore you. Just that it was "news to me". |
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21 May 2002, 01:13 (Ref:291027)
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Shigiaki Hattori knows all about this rule...
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21 May 2002, 13:11 (Ref:291452)
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SevenGrain, in response to your "macdaddy, look again at the link you just posted"...
You could have just called me a "big dummy" and it wouldn't have hurt my feelings. I guess I just wasn't paying attention. |
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21 May 2002, 18:55 (Ref:291775)
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Bell IS classed a rookie, so where you lot decided he wasn't is a mystery!
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21 May 2002, 21:47 (Ref:291940)
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After pre-season testing, wasn't Mario Dominguez the great gun driver, who would lift his lowly team onto the podium?
Good luck to him, but I think as Michel has shown, the driver aint the problem with the team... |
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22 May 2002, 02:07 (Ref:292093)
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macdaddy, I would never refer to anybody that I genuinely like as a "Big Dummy"
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22 May 2002, 06:50 (Ref:292193)
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I started this thread because I thought it funny. I was browsing the CART homepage, looking at the standings, and I only noticed one (R). And only one name in the R-of-Year standings. Forgetting all about Townsend, I thought that there was only one rookie this year. Thus the "funny" with starting a poll. Oh well, if it did anything it got me looking at the rulebook and I learned about the 110% thing.
Seven - Thanks. But would you still like me if you actually GOT one of those MBNA credit cards? lol |
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22 May 2002, 20:15 (Ref:292906)
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Personally I feel that both the rookies this year are a pile of pants!
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22 May 2002, 20:55 (Ref:292940)
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I reckon TB will get some good results if he can keep it on the black stuff.
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he isn't shown because he's the only driver to have not scored a point.
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