Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 Aug 2002, 15:42 (Ref:349388)   #1
Mr V
Veteran
 
Mr V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
England
The city of bridges (one day!)
Posts: 13,211
Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!
No summer break in 2003!

Good for the fans, bad for the teams personnel, this posted on f1-live!

The provisional 2003 calendar recently came in for some criticism from McLaren team boss Ron Dennis, who stated that it was unfair of the FIA to withdraw the summer break that is much-needed by all the personnel working in Formula One. However according to FIA president Max Mosley the blame for the calendar denying teams the break, which they were finally granted this season, rests with inflexibility of the Monaco Grand Prix organisers, who are unwilling to change the date of the Monte Carlo race.

Many team bosses fought hard for a summer break to be put into the calendar, to allow hard-working team personnel the opportunity to return home for a few days and spend some time with their family, who often do not see them for long periods of times. While this was granted this season, next year's provisional calendar has not had the break included, and according to Mosley there is no chance of the calendar changing and the break being implemented.

"The answer is no," said Mosley. "We would have a really crazy calendar with three races in succession, or we would have to move the Monaco GP from a date we'd agreed with the organisers, and they built everything around one set date."
Mr V is offline  
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
Quote
Old 3 Aug 2002, 15:53 (Ref:349391)   #2
Jordi
Veteran
 
Jordi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Catalonia
Vilafranca del Penedés, CATALONIA
Posts: 5,276
Jordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridJordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Well, what if they were doing 36 races like NASCAR?
Jordi is offline  
__________________
"Many people depend on motor racing for their livelihood, to them it is a business. To me, it is a sport."
-Jim Clark
Quote
Old 3 Aug 2002, 16:55 (Ref:349410)   #3
El_Gibleto
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 664
El_Gibleto should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The objection to the break is from Jean Todt, of course he doesn't have young children so isn't concerned about the family life of his workers.
El_Gibleto is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 07:04 (Ref:350202)   #4
Red
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Romania
Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 5,867
Red should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid

Quote:
Originally posted by El_Gibleto
The objection to the break is from Jean Todt, of course he doesn't have young children so isn't concerned about the family life of his workers.
Aaahhh, and of course you know better than let's say Mr Dennis:
Quote:
Originally posted by Ron Dennis
I can comfortably say there wasn't a single grand prix team consulted in any shape or form when this calendar was put together. And I don't think that's particularly fair. Most of the management of the racing teams can comfortably cope. But it is extremely tough for the people who work directly in the teams, all the mechanics and all the logistics staff.
Red is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 07:56 (Ref:350223)   #5
ttc
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location:
AMK, Singapore
Posts: 369
ttc should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Red
Aaahhh, and of course you know better than let's say Mr Dennis:
Don't you know already? Everything that's wrong in F1 is Ferrari's fault.

And again, we're the blinded ones trying to "defend" Ferrari.
ttc is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 09:33 (Ref:350267)   #6
Red
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Romania
Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 5,867
Red should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
D'uh! Yes Ttc, you're right...... I forgot!
Red is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 16:05 (Ref:350530)   #7
JohnSSC
Veteran
 
JohnSSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Slovenia
Pittsburgh
Posts: 5,073
JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!
To the relative newcomer to these forums, Ferrari, if not TGF seem to be the root of all the evils of this world. I am sure somewhere on their payroll is the second gunman on the grassy knoll, assorted killjoys, spoilsports and anti-vacation with the family people, led by Jean Todt who has proven he does not like children by allowing his own to become adults! How does he live with the shame? I forgot! TGF made him do it!
JohnSSC is offline  
__________________
"He's still a young guy and I always think, slightly morbidly, the last thing you learn is how to die and at the end of the day everybody learns every single day." - The Ever-Cheerfull Ron Dennis on Lewis Hamilton.
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 16:10 (Ref:350532)   #8
Red
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Romania
Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 5,867
Red should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
You're excused John. But now, you've been warned and you won't make those capital mistakes anymore. By the way...... How could you miss those facts all that time?
Red is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 17:50 (Ref:350593)   #9
Speedworx
Veteran
 
Speedworx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
United Kingdom
Northamptonshire
Posts: 4,553
Speedworx should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
This mid-season break is stupid. Have races every 2 weeks with no season testing at all. Then have November has a testing month.
Speedworx is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 18:21 (Ref:350615)   #10
Jordi
Veteran
 
Jordi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Catalonia
Vilafranca del Penedés, CATALONIA
Posts: 5,276
Jordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridJordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Hell no. Not everything is fault of Ferrari and TGF, Red!

But, as I said, what if they did 36 races a year or 20 like CART?
Jordi is offline  
__________________
"Many people depend on motor racing for their livelihood, to them it is a business. To me, it is a sport."
-Jim Clark
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 18:25 (Ref:350620)   #11
Red
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Romania
Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 5,867
Red should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Hmmm...... I'd be delighted. However, I realize that this is NOT possible. 20 maybe..... but 36.... nah... Anyway, increasing the no. of races certainly would reduce the (already non-existing) period of breaks.
Red is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 18:38 (Ref:350632)   #12
Jordi
Veteran
 
Jordi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Catalonia
Vilafranca del Penedés, CATALONIA
Posts: 5,276
Jordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridJordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I didn't mean to demand an increase of races, but if they were in NASCAR they would do 20 races in a row!

I don't think it is that bad. If I enjoyed being an F1 mechanic, I'd do it all the time I could...
Jordi is offline  
__________________
"Many people depend on motor racing for their livelihood, to them it is a business. To me, it is a sport."
-Jim Clark
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 18:43 (Ref:350638)   #13
Red
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Romania
Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 5,867
Red should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yes Jordi. But in NASCAR or CART they don't develop the cars every day. In Formula 1, the car from the last race is in a great proportion completely different (in design, not only in spare-parts) from the car that started the season. I'd like a longer season, races at every weekend but that's not possible!

Anyway, why not enjoy this weekend a Formula 1 race, next one a CART and in third a NASCAR... (that's rhetorical question, I don't enjoy CART or NASCAR )
Red is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 20:39 (Ref:350717)   #14
Legend
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
Denmark
Posts: 666
Legend should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Red
Aaahhh, and of course you know better than let's say Mr Dennis
I just want to say Ron Dennis sux bad time! Man, I have never seen a public person with such a low quality. Howling all the time, calling names at his own crew and being so unpleasant. Guys remember when he said David had a brain-fade some times ago when he stalled his car? Man he is just something else, isn’t he?
Legend is offline  
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 20:51 (Ref:350730)   #15
JohnSSC
Veteran
 
JohnSSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Slovenia
Pittsburgh
Posts: 5,073
JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!JohnSSC has a real shot at the podium!
Thank you Red, I guess I must read and accept the "truth" more carefully!

In all seriousness, both CART and NASCAR do testing/development between races as well. I cannot speak for the level (same, more or less than F1) but they run a fairly rigorous schedule as well. In NASCAR especially there tend to be rule changes about once per week that keep the teams hopping!

Legend, I am sure you would agree that if TGF declared: "There shalt be more time off for Holiday!" That it would be made so immediately (if not sooner!).
JohnSSC is offline  
__________________
"He's still a young guy and I always think, slightly morbidly, the last thing you learn is how to die and at the end of the day everybody learns every single day." - The Ever-Cheerfull Ron Dennis on Lewis Hamilton.
Quote
Old 5 Aug 2002, 21:26 (Ref:350769)   #16
Jordi
Veteran
 
Jordi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Catalonia
Vilafranca del Penedés, CATALONIA
Posts: 5,276
Jordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridJordi should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Red
Yes Jordi. But in NASCAR or CART they don't develop the cars every day. In Formula 1, the car from the last race is in a great proportion completely different (in design, not only in spare-parts) from the car that started the season. I'd like a longer season, races at every weekend but that's not possible!

Anyway, why not enjoy this weekend a Formula 1 race, next one a CART and in third a NASCAR... (that's rhetorical question, I don't enjoy CART or NASCAR )

Not really. The CART teams also do develop some parts (Newman/Haas, Player's/Forsythe have their own R&D programs, and Penske of course in the IRL) and the rebuilding and setting up and packing is the same basically. And probably CART and NASCAR teams have less workforce than Ferrari or McLaren...

Anyway. I do enjoy CART and NASCAR, even the IRL too... and nothing better than a F1-CART combo (don't get NASCAR here)
Jordi is offline  
__________________
"Many people depend on motor racing for their livelihood, to them it is a business. To me, it is a sport."
-Jim Clark
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2003 will be a make or break year for both Button and Heidfeld Yoong Montoya Formula One 29 1 Aug 2002 21:45
I HATE the summer break asha Bike Racing 15 23 Jul 2002 13:15


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.