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Old 21 Mar 2005, 19:50 (Ref:1258266)   #51
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Other CC race day attendance:
Monterrey was 92,713
Mexico city was 212k
Surfer's was 107,321
Vancouver and Montreal they were in the 60Ks on race day, but TO is in Canada too.
Denver - I'm going by memory, but I believe was ~40k race day but they did announced a 112k weekend.

Vegas was a write-off. I think there were suppose to be about 15k at the end, but recall the Busch race before hand. Maybe 10k showed up for CC? I didn't realize that Laguna was so poor, that's just nuts!! Are you sure that's right? RA has also been omitted, but I'm sure it was a poor number.
RA,,,, oops. Wonder what it was?
The Laguna number is a fact. Sorry.
Thanks for the other numbers!

NOT wanting to start "the same old debate" again,,,, but there were a few forum posters that said things were slow Friday and Saturday at Denver,, and all of a sudden there's over 100,000 for the weekend. Most dont think thats an accurate figure for the people there..... if ya know what I mean.
Anyway's,,,,, I'm remembering 30,000 stated from somewhere?? Oh well,,, anywhere between 30 and 40 thousand is a good OW race number.

BTW, this is a great site. Can discuss numbers, drivers, and races without all the non-sense name calling and flames like at other boards..... thanks everyone!
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Old 21 Mar 2005, 20:17 (Ref:1258294)   #52
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Hey no prob, electrocuted. We're all a friendly bunch, especially when we don't agree! Welcome!
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Old 21 Mar 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1258312)   #53
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Always nice to see new fans, join the forum.

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RA,,,, oops. Wonder what it was?
The Laguna number is a fact. Sorry.
Thanks for the other numbers!

NOT wanting to start "the same old debate" again,,,, but there were a few forum posters that said things were slow Friday and Saturday at Denver,, and all of a sudden there's over 100,000 for the weekend. Most dont think thats an accurate figure for the people there..... if ya know what I mean.
Anyway's,,,,, I'm remembering 30,000 stated from somewhere?? Oh well,,, anywhere between 30 and 40 thousand is a good OW race number.

BTW, this is a great site. Can discuss numbers, drivers, and races without all the non-sense name calling and flames like at other boards..... thanks everyone!
By no means were things "slow" at Denver on Friday and Saturday.
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Old 21 Mar 2005, 22:46 (Ref:1258430)   #55
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BTW, this is a great site. Can discuss numbers, drivers, and races without all the non-sense name calling and flames like at other boards..... thanks everyone!
I think so too. Feel free to stick around, we're always happy for new people to start posting.
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Old 21 Mar 2005, 23:09 (Ref:1258457)   #56
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especially when we don't agree!
Hey,, that's me. Mr. I Dont Agree!!

Thanks everyone...
I try to just stick around the Biz, management and numbers threads. For those of you that havnt seen me at other forums,, you'll see why I tend to avoid "feel good" threads.
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Old 23 Mar 2005, 18:02 (Ref:1260006)   #58
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After the critzium of the current layout, interestingly on the official website, it has poll on....'Which temporary circuit has the best layout for Champ Car racing?'

31% Cleveland
30% Long Beach
22% Surfers Paradise, Australia
12% Toronto
3% Denver

I voted Surfers incase you wondered.

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Old 24 Mar 2005, 16:31 (Ref:1260853)   #59
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I think the issue is not how many people were listed as attending but how many were PAID attendees -- and paid without coercion. Both the IRL and Champ give away tickets (to celebs, to radio stations for contests, etc.), but I don't believe Champ has yet stooped as low as the IRL at Vegas, where they gave away tickets as freebies to casino players. Or like at many ISC tracks, where people who have had the same seats for the same NASCAR races every year were told that they could no longer have them... unless they also bought tickets for the IRL race at the same track.

I consider the IRL's attendance figures suspect, and not just because I'm a Champ fan. And to bring this back to the topic of Long Beach, the weather has more to do with how many show up than anything else, IMO. If the weather's crappy (like three years ago) people stay home. I think that's true for many outdoor events in the LA area.

Looking forward to seeing Racegypsy and many of our other 10th-10ths friends there,

keke

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Old 30 Mar 2005, 12:20 (Ref:1265202)   #60
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Roll on the 31st Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach. link
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 14:10 (Ref:1269902)   #61
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Any word on where contract renewal negotiations are going for next year and beyond between Long beach and OWRS???

Today's Indy Star quoted Ken Ungar of the IRL as saying yesterday in St. Pete that the IRL is in "Serious Negotiations" with Long beach to possibly rae there next year....

I would think that OWRS, as the existing partner, would have the inside track....

Has anyone heard anything about the status of negotiations from OWRS's side of the equation???
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 14:12 (Ref:1269906)   #62
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There is a very strong rumor that Long Beach will continue to be a Champ Car race.

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Old 4 Apr 2005, 14:32 (Ref:1269924)   #63
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Today's Indy Star quoted Ken Ungar of the IRL as saying yesterday in St. Pete that the IRL is in "Serious Negotiations" with Long beach to possibly rae there next year....
That is very disappointing to hear, and I hope the supposed negotiations come to nothing.

As for Champ Car I hope they either leave Long Beach altogether or force a change to the layout.
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As for Champ Car I hope they either leave Long Beach altogether or force a change to the layout.
They can't go back to the previous layouts due to building.

Anyways I can't see how the current layout is not good.

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Old 4 Apr 2005, 15:06 (Ref:1269949)   #65
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They can't go back to the previous layouts due to building.
I am well aware of that and I didn't say they should go back to the old one either - just that they should change the current one.



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Anyways I can't see how the current layout is not good.
It's utterly inferior to the old one, IMHO.
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 18:40 (Ref:1270134)   #66
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There is a very strong rumor that Long Beach will continue to be a Champ Car race.
I want to believe this, luke, I really do. Where did you hear this?

I haven't heard anything to the contrary, but I just want to be sure that this is a real rumor and not have false hope
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I want to believe this, luke, I really do. Where did you hear this?

I haven't heard anything to the contrary, but I just want to be sure that this is a real rumor and not have false hope
'Champ Car wins battle to keep Long Beach'
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 20:06 (Ref:1270199)   #68
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A rumour from a site called "ChampCar fanatics" is hardly the most objective and credible source.
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Okay... now where did those bozos get that rumor info?
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A rumour from a site called "ChampCar fanatics" is hardly the most objective and credible source.
It's a Champ Car forum, The name of the site has nothing to do with the rumor status, MarkC who runs AutoRacing1, anounced it on the forum.

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MarkC and AutoRacing1 are hardly an objective and credible source, in my opinion.
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K-b and I are thinking alike on this one. All I am saying is that let's not jump the gun on this one.
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MarkC and AutoRacing1 are hardly an objective and credible source, in my opinion.
Their first for rumors, but as he said it's a strong rumor.
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K-b and I are thinking alike on this one. All I am saying is that let's not jump the gun on this one.
Lets not, I'm just letting you guys know there's a strong rumor that it will stay.

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Today's LA Times

I hope this link will work as LA Times does require registration.

It is going to be an uphill battle to keep the CCWS in Long Beach. With Toyota as sponsor and Dover Motorsports not liking OWRS, it does not look good for retaining this race. I agree with the statement that the CCWS starts too late in the year. And five weeks between LB and Monterey is too long of a layoff.
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