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9 Mar 2003, 13:20 (Ref:530008)
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Your opinion on the rookies
Da Matta. Lost it when trying a move on Webber and Schumacher.
Firman. Not good Pizzonia. Not bad. He didm't know the track so why takes chances. Wilson. Could not he find a better things to do with his money than paying for such a crappy ride? 
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9 Mar 2003, 13:22 (Ref:530012)
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Da Matta: sensational on Friday, pretty good on Saturday, just ok on Sunday.
Firman: Jury still out. Pizzonia: Dissapointing, though a pretty good best lap on Sunday. Wilson: An ok weekend, did very good in the race untill his radiator got punctured. |
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9 Mar 2003, 13:58 (Ref:530056)
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Da Matta: overall good first weekend, unforunately picked a bad place to spin out on Sunday.
Firman: Didn't really register on any Radar. Pizzonia: Not really impressed so far. Seems a little ragged. Wilson: That team needs to improve more before judgement can be made on Wilson. Difficult to bring a Pig to the Ball. |
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9 Mar 2003, 14:05 (Ref:530058)
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Da Matta: okay, good on saturday, but shouldn´t spin during the races
Firman: erm...he should better stop crashing...but beaing in mind that he had not much experience with the car, we should give him some time Pizzonia: disappointing Wilson: did okay, looking forward to see his next races |
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9 Mar 2003, 14:46 (Ref:530072)
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Wilson was the best of the bunch in the race, and considering he's had less car time than any of the others that's impressive.
Da Matta doesn't look like he's going to do a Zanardi, which is good. He doesn't seem to be a JV or Monty either at the moment but the potential is there. I didn't notice Pizzonia much all weekend and I only noticed Firman when he was crashing or driving off track! |
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9 Mar 2003, 14:59 (Ref:530091)
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Da Matta - what's da matta with Da Matta? I thought he did very well (apart from his 2nd qualifying session). His accident was kind of ameteurish, but I expect he will do well this season as the Toyota improves.
Wilson - great start up 9 places, just bad luck with the car. Pizzonia - I was surprised with his performance because I've always thought of him to be quick. He was far slower than Webber and didn't do that well, although it was a new track to him. Firman - even though he's British, I don't think he is good enough for Formula 1. Jordan need someone who is going to be quick, and Firman he ain't. |
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9 Mar 2003, 15:02 (Ref:530095)
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Da Matta: F1 is'nt as easy as CART.
Firman: Formula Nippon is'nt what it used to be. Pizzonia: Is also no Senna, if he really was that good sir Frank would'nt have let him go. Wilson: had a great start, made very litle mistakes throughout the weekend and just had bad luck his radiator was punctured by a stone. |
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9 Mar 2003, 15:04 (Ref:530100)
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The first race was rough on all rookies including De Matta who have to adjust to the F1 style of racing. Hey its only the first race of the season, fifteen to go to the 2003 season.
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9 Mar 2003, 15:05 (Ref:530102)
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Da Matta: Probably made the biggest mistake of his life by entering F1
Firman: Lost in space Pizzonia: I agree with steve nielsen on that. Wilson: should pull himself together and everything will e just fine |
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9 Mar 2003, 15:08 (Ref:530107)
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Fpr Da Matta: That's the exact same thing he did at Road America last season!
Let's hope he only does once this year too. He was running a heavy fuel load in quali, and I think you'll see him gradually move up the time sheets and be giving Panis a run for his money mid-season. Neither Firman nor Pizzonia really impressed..but hopefully they'll be given more time to improve. Didn't really see enough of Wilson, but he had a good, albeit brief run in the race. I'm more worried about Minardi... |
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9 Mar 2003, 15:14 (Ref:530118)
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Jos also made(when asked about it) an interesting comment on it, he said that when some rookies(Kimi,Mark) did well, some other teams get the idea they need a rookie/young driver in their team when there are much better experienced drivers around who could fill those seats(Irvine,PDLR,Salo)
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9 Mar 2003, 16:00 (Ref:530190)
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CDM, Firman: missed the first 20minutes and no comment,
Pizzonia: just saw flashes of the Jag on TV--most of the time was on the Ferrari: even though it is not leading and there are other battlefields at the same time.  Wilson: once in a while he was 9th (from 21st). Whatever his fuel load, tyre strategy, he is driving a MINARDI into top ten where no-one expects it to do so. Not bad as a debut. But how much potential he really has and how far he will go is unknown. Perhaps he will "do a Button"
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9 Mar 2003, 17:48 (Ref:530348)
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9 Mar 2003, 18:42 (Ref:530410)
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I nearly fell off my chair when I saw Wilson in 9th. Starting from 20th and from the pitlane, he made an amazing first few laps of the race and impressed immensely. Too bad about his punctured radiator.
As for the other three, can't say they impressed much. Firman crashed early on after running way back, da Matta spun (far back as well), and we hardly ever saw Pizzonia, though he made up a few places - always behind Mark Webber though, and didn't finish due to a rear suspension failure. Having read the Jaguar report, they are pleased with Pizzonia's performance though, so he probably did reasonably well. Last edited by R; 9 Mar 2003 at 18:52. |
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9 Mar 2003, 18:53 (Ref:530424)
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9 Mar 2003, 19:17 (Ref:530444)
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9 Mar 2003, 19:53 (Ref:530493)
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Firman started in 17th place and was in 8th place when he crashed. It shows good potential that he made up so many places.
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9 Mar 2003, 20:05 (Ref:530517)
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give them all a chance, its only one race into thenseason after all. its a challenging track as well.
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9 Mar 2003, 20:07 (Ref:530520)
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You're all being too hard on Pizzonia. It was a tough weekend for him, only being able to do 16 laps on Friday. At least he kept it together in the race, for as long as the Jag lasted. He qualified with a 1 stop fuel load and began running some quick laps when the fuel came down.
I think Antonio will be competitive with Webber by the time they get to Brazil and begin the European stretch. |
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9 Mar 2003, 20:16 (Ref:530536)
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Bunnies the lot of them. What wasted talent we have watching from the sidelines.
The midget from Toyota was very poor. Did pizza boy do anything? Firman, very mediocre, actually, lame! Wilson, who knows, benefit of the doubt. |
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9 Mar 2003, 21:39 (Ref:530624)
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Too early to judge for any of them. While it's easy to be critical of those who went off, remember that JPM, Rubins, Ralf, MS (not catastrophic), Webber, Kimi (qualifying) also went off. It's first race stuff and they're not doing something that's easy.
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9 Mar 2003, 21:49 (Ref:530639)
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I thought they all did ok for a first race. Give them 2 or 3 before making a proper judgement.
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9 Mar 2003, 21:54 (Ref:530645)
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For a combination of speed, mediocre car, and remarkable gains in track position, the winner has to be Justin Wilson. But I was struck by da Matta's remark after the race, that he had missed the 100m mark because he was behind two cars, and by the time he saw the 50m mark it was too late... On the one hand, he candidly admitted the error; but on the other, this doesn't sound like something a mature drive should be doing. All in all, though, I'm with those who think it's too early to judge. Can't wait for Malaysia!
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9 Mar 2003, 22:55 (Ref:530723)
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9 Mar 2003, 23:03 (Ref:530731)
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da Matta: Good during free practise, and his qualifying wasn't too bad, but he let himself down with his spin.
Firman: Er... poor. Pizzonia: Managed to keep it on the track, but was rather slow. Wilson: Did well while he was on track. Good job. |
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