Street circuits

[BSchneiderFan]

Quick question: would current generation F1 cars be physically able to race at Macau, Pau or the Norisring?

[mattcanary]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Quick question: would current generation F1 cars be physically able to race at Macau, Pau or the Norisring?

Don;t know enough about the Norisring, but Pau and Macau are both pretty narrow. Not sure they;re suitable for F1 - especially with the ever widening cars.

[Juntos]

Long Beach can!

http://www.presstelegram.com/events/...ach-grand-prix

[S griffin]

Macau, would never work, it's got a place that's so narrow they have a permanent yellow flag! Ralph Firmin's demo is the closest we'll see to it happening.

Pau, not sure about, they used to have to have non-championship races there back in the 60s and the circuit hasn't changed since then.

Norisring is certainly wide enough, but they'd need to lengthen the lap it's probably about as long as the Silverstone National circuit or a bit more

There are plenty of ones in America that could work, like Long Beach, like Belle Isle

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Macau, would never work, it's got a place that's so narrow they have a permanent yellow flag!

Is is worse than Monaco's Loews or Long Beach's hairpin?

[JHamilton]

Two meters seems to be the standard for most race cars these days, so I'd say that they would physically be able to race at those locations. I wouldn't want to watch though...

[Mike Bell]

Well, Pau will be hosting modern and historic machinery on consecutive weekends next month, but not sure how a 2017 F1 compares size-wise with a GT4 Aston, pre '66 Mustang or Corvette! It's narrow, bumpy, has strange cambers, and there is one uphill section where overtaking is not allowed on the first lap. Fantastic street circuit and great events though....

http://www.grandprixdepau.fr/program...derne.php?l=en

[Matt]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Is is worse than Monaco's Loews or Long Beach's hairpin?

Yes.

[Juntos]

If you google it using the marvellous Goolge translator you will find that Formula 1 was proposed to Macau in 2014. Apparently the compulsory layout changes were a bit too much for the locals.

ChecK:
http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=40899

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Well, Pau will be hosting modern and historic machinery on consecutive weekends next month, but not sure how a 2017 F1 compares size-wise with a GT4 Aston, pre '66 Mustang or Corvette! It's narrow, bumpy, has strange cambers, and there is one uphill section where overtaking is not allowed on the first lap. Fantastic street circuit and great events though....

http://www.grandprixdepau.fr/program...derne.php?l=en

It is fantastic but too quick and dangerous for F1. When F3000 was there, there were accidents at pretty much every turn.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by chunterer

It is fantastic but too quick and dangerous for F1. When F3000 was there, there were accidents at pretty much every turn.

Leave it to the smaller formula, then! F3 probably very quick round there....

[Bodysnatcher]

Originally Posted by chunterer

It is fantastic but too quick and dangerous for F1. When F3000 was there, there were accidents at pretty much every turn.

Pau is extremely narrow. Lycee hairpin was notorious in F3000. Not sure I've seen any footage of them through the chicane, but it must have been challenging. GT4 & F3 cars through the corner I marshal at are... close. (Poeymirau/Bouisson)

Modern F1 there?, As a demo maybe, as a race, no, impossible.

[p-matt]

Surely Formula E could race at all of the above. Macau, Pau and Norisring would be cracking additions, but Pau's a bit too rural for them

[Oldtony]

Originally Posted by p-matt

Surely Formula E could race at all of the above. Macau, Pau and Norisring would be cracking additions, but Pau's a bit too rural for them

Perhaps F1 should cede the tight city street circuits to Formula E and concentrate on circuits which suit the faster cars.
The future of city motoring is probably all electric anyway.
Monaco is, of course, the jewel in the crown and along with Singapore could race both Formulae top give an understanding of the difference performasnce levels.
Both under the same pwnership now.

[BSchneiderFan]

Birmingham Superprix!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Birmingham Superprix!

Yes, bring it back!!

[S griffin]

Indeed, while visiting my brother in Brum last August, we managed to find time to find where the circuit is and all the roads are still there, as are the barrier ground supports. All they need to do is temporarily remove the traffic islands like they do in Monaco, although that would be hard, as they are desinged to be removed in Monaco

[Mike Bell]

Well, the law now allows races to be held on the public highway, so all it needs is someone with the vision, willpower and money......

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Well, the law now allows races to be held on the public highway, so all it needs is someone with the vision, willpower and money......

Grand Prix of Norwich Mike?

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Grand Prix of Norwich Mike?

doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, does it..... Can't imagine the council greens getting behind motorsport, but the road system is probably as suited or not suited as any other city....

[BSchneiderFan]

Honorary marshal Alan Partridge?

[Rob29]

Grand Prix of Lincoln? They seem to close the streets for bicycles & parades by the soccer team

[chunterer]

Bromyard. Whizzo's own venue!!

[BSchneiderFan]

Just watching the DTM from the Norisring. Great circuit but a very short lap - the DTM cars are doing high 40s, so F1 cars would do it in about half a minute, I reckon. Still, it would be quite a spectacle.

[S griffin]

As I said before Norisring is certainly wide enough, it just needs lengthening