Renault Dismiss Flav and Pat or Oh dear… Here comes trouble - Page 46

bdwoody · 15 Oct 2009, 19:12 (Ref:2562185)

or most of .... .-)

kartracer41 · 16 Oct 2009, 14:54 (Ref:2562760)

Sr. Piquet is talking again. This is the first time I have seen this complete of a statement from him regarding the timeline of the events.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79477

If what he says is true, it sounds like he tried to rectify or at least clarify the situation more than once, but certain parties didn't want to cooperate, so he resorted to legal/FIA action. Briatore ****ed off the wrong person.

Alan Raine · 18 Oct 2009, 13:44 (Ref:2563663)

Flav fights back

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79569

Mr V · 18 Oct 2009, 20:23 (Ref:2564016)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Raine

Flav fights back

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79569

I agree with him, i think it was Max's way of getting him before leaving office.

Al Weyman · 18 Oct 2009, 20:29 (Ref:2564031)

And if he wins and the FIA has to stump up the 1 million I wonder if we will have to pay that!

**Bononi** · 19 Oct 2009, 00:13 (Ref:2564164)

I'm sorry for Briatore, but he'll get nothing.

Teretonga · 19 Oct 2009, 01:10 (Ref:2564186)

Briatores fight back may owe more to how it affects him outside of motorsport.

If the tag he carries disqualifies him from other enterprises then discrediting the FIA decision through a judicial judgement is a way to deal with suggestions he is not a 'fit and proper person' to own a ...... football team, for example...

Nicholosophy · 19 Oct 2009, 11:24 (Ref:2564466)

Of course he had to do this when the championship was decided. Couldn't have waited a couple of weeks either way.

Nasty man.

Alan Raine · 19 Oct 2009, 11:27 (Ref:2564475)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teretonga

If the tag he carries disqualifies him from other enterprises then discrediting the FIA decision through a judicial judgement is a way to deal with suggestions he is not a 'fit and proper person' to own a ...... football team, for example...

Last month I had to modify a QPR magazine ad for a publication I work on. One mod was to put in a photo of Flav. So they don't seem concerned.

Marbot · 12 Nov 2009, 10:25 (Ref:2580667)

Flav is taking the FIA to court to seek compensation for his wrongful (in his opinion) ban.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39551

foreversideways · 12 Nov 2009, 11:05 (Ref:2580686)

I think a number of us on here pointed out that he may have a case under European law. I expect that now Mosely has gone that Todt will not want this dirty laundry being exposed in a public court and that some accommodation will be come to before the case goes to court.

VIVA GT · 12 Nov 2009, 11:18 (Ref:2580693)

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreversideways

I think a number of us on here pointed out that he may have a case under European law. I expect that now Mosely has gone that Todt will not want this dirty laundry being exposed in a public court and that some accommodation will be come to before the case goes to court.

So, you think that the 'New Broom' is going to sweep this under the carpet then?

foreversideways · 12 Nov 2009, 11:21 (Ref:2580694)

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

So, you think that the 'New Broom' is going to sweep this under the carpet then?

Morning Viva, trust you are well today. Yes i think under the carpet is where it will all go. After all Ron D appeared at the last GP and i thought he was persona non grata.

VIVA GT · 12 Nov 2009, 12:27 (Ref:2580727)

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreversideways

Morning Viva, trust you are well today. Yes i think under the carpet is where it will all go. After all Ron D appeared at the last GP and i thought he was persona non grata.

Thanks FS, (full of a cold at the moment, but being a brave soldier!), hope you're OK?
But if all of this is just swept aside, what do you think will happen?
Will Flav & Pat be allowed back into F1?
Will Flav be allowed to managed drivers again?
Surely we're better off without him around (but Pat Symonds was I think far more innocent)?
As for Ron appearing at the last GP, I'm sure it was because the FIA had a new president, but surely he moved out of F1 voluntarily as a gesture to appease Max, he wasn't forced to?

Piglet · 12 Nov 2009, 13:01 (Ref:2580746)

T'is interesting isn't it. With my geeky legal head on I'm glad Flav is bringing action. The FIA sanction IMO overstepped the mark.

I'm not sure about the claims of Human Rights infringements, unless something has changed (or its different in different countries?), you can only claim Human Rights infringements State or quasi state bodies. UK Caselaw has held that people like the Jockey Club aren't quasi state bodies even though arguably they hold that sort of status.

I think the FIA ought to be a bit careful - if the Euro Courts feel that the FIA have behaved very badly the FIA might well find itself being subject to Human Rights legislation and that would have some really serious ramifications throughout motorsport and indeed other sports.

jab · 12 Nov 2009, 13:07 (Ref:2580749)

I'd like to think Todt has the balls to go out and prove he's his own man by lifting the bans. Not because I like Flav and Pat, but to show he's not Mosley's puppet

foreversideways · 12 Nov 2009, 13:35 (Ref:2580771)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

I'd like to think Todt has the balls to go out and prove he's his own man by lifting the bans. Not because I like Flav and Pat, but to show he's not Mosley's puppet

You beet me to it there. My thoughts entirely. I think a deal of some sort as a gesture of goodwill from the new president will be done with Flav and Symonds.

Marbot · 12 Nov 2009, 14:07 (Ref:2580785)

Do we really want Flav back in F1 ! ?

VIVA GT · 12 Nov 2009, 14:13 (Ref:2580788)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marbot

Do we really want Flav back in F1 ! ?

Not that I'm involved with F1 personally, but I do have to say that I do not want Flav back!

Marbot · 12 Nov 2009, 16:34 (Ref:2580863)

The FIA strikes back!

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39555

Piglet · 12 Nov 2009, 17:08 (Ref:2580882)

The FIA condemns the leaks

What because he got in before they could leak it?

kartracer41 · 13 Nov 2009, 15:36 (Ref:2581428)

Briatore says there were secret meetings held before the WMSC meeting.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80148

I am sure there were plenty of meetings between different individuals over this situation before it went to the WMSC. Did they have their mind made up beforehand? I don't know. Do I care, not really. I hope he does not succeed. I think the sport is better off without him.

Marbot · 13 Nov 2009, 18:04 (Ref:2581500)

On second thoughts maybe having Flav back wouldn't be so bad. Eez very good to hear the speak for sure.

Armco Bender · 13 Nov 2009, 18:18 (Ref:2581508)

Flav will buy F1 off Bernie....thats my tip.

**Woolley** · 13 Nov 2009, 21:32 (Ref:2581610)

It makes me smile when someone as (alledgedly) double-dealing as Flav, part of the team that got a driver to deliberately crash to help their prospects, and who's been on the edge of all sorts of apparently dodginess over the years gets all high-and-mighty and offended at the possibility that their may have been a conspiracy.

Excuse me while I have a complete sense of sympathy failure.

Ah well, at least he gets to work closely with lawyers, possibly the only profession where he may meet someone even more loathsome than he.

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