ILMC 2011 Discussion - Page 25

**joeb** · 22 Jun 2011, 01:32 (Ref:2903236)

Quote:

Originally Posted by courageous

By rights, skipping Imola should cost ORECA a eu30,000 fine .

Well other teams were given a waiver for missing Sebring, but I don't know if all teams are allowed to skip 1 race, or if it was just the 1st race.

broadrun96 · 22 Jun 2011, 01:56 (Ref:2903238)

The way I read the ACO's release regarding Sebring was teams debuting a new car would be allowed to skip Sebring in order to test and tune their cars.

KA · 22 Jun 2011, 07:52 (Ref:2903297)

Looking at the pdf of the entry list from a few posts back, the second Oak Pescarolo (#24) is missing from LMP1- Nicolet and Hein are instead listed in the second LMP2 car (#49) that ran at Le Mans...

The Guess Racing Lola that was a no-show at Spa is back on the list as well- No Wolfgang Kaufmann, and Ebbesvik is joined by Chapman Ducote and Kyle Marcelli from the ALMS.

NaBUru38 · 3 Jul 2011, 22:06 (Ref:2917652)

Standings after 4 / 7 rounds:

LMP1 Manufacturers:

1. Peugeot, 132
2. Audi, 89
3. Aston Martin, 0

GTE Manufacturers:

1. Ferrari, 87
2. BMW, 87
3. Corvette, 75
4. Porsche, 64
5. Aston Martin, 10
6. Lotus, 9

LMP1 Teams:

1. Peugeot, 65
2. Audi, 61
3. Team Oreca, 34
4. Rebellion, 33
5. Oak, 5
6. Hope, 0
6. Aston Martin, 0

LMP2 Teams:

1. Signatech, 62
2. Level 5, 42
3. Oak, 34

GTE Pro Teams:

1. AF Corse, 68
2. BMW, 62
3. Lotus, 16
4. Luxury, 5

gwyllion · 4 Jul 2011, 20:49 (Ref:2918180)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Standings after 4 / 7 rounds:

GTE Manufacturers:

1. Ferrari, 87
2. BMW, 87
3. Corvette, 75
4. Porsche, 64
5. Aston Martin, 10
6. Lotus, 9

According to http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/..._ilmc_2011.pdf the points are as follows:
1 Ferrari 98
2 BMW 87
3 Corvette 73
4 Porsche 64
5 Aston Martin 11
6 Lotus 9

NaBUru38 · 5 Jul 2011, 00:50 (Ref:2918274)

I copied the boxes and removed the unnecessary text. Perhaps the updated it. Thanks for the tip.

boesel · 9 Jul 2011, 09:15 (Ref:2924059)

Hi, at this address you can find a complete report concerning 6 hours of Imola with more than 200 photos.
http://www.connectingrod.it/LeMansSe...imola_eng.html

The Badger · 11 Jul 2011, 05:30 (Ref:2924908)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

Well other teams were given a waiver for missing Sebring, but I don't know if all teams are allowed to skip 1 race, or if it was just the 1st race.

The waiver was for one race only , and only if you had a new car .

AMR and the Swiss Hybrid used that waiver .

No more waivers for missing races .

AMR paid 30 grand for missing Imola , not sure if that is for both cars , or 30 grand each though .

Simmi · 11 Jul 2011, 10:08 (Ref:2924994)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

AMR paid 30 grand for missing Imola , not sure if that is for both cars , or 30 grand each though .

I think they only had a one-car ILMC entry. So they shouldn't have to pay for both.

KA · 11 Jul 2011, 16:39 (Ref:2925143)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

I think they only had a one-car ILMC entry. So they shouldn't have to pay for both.

Yes- the full season entry list on the ILMC website only lists one Aston

http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...mc-engages.pdf

pederb · 13 Jul 2011, 19:52 (Ref:2926206)

And no Jota AM Vantage?

Victor_RO · 13 Jul 2011, 19:58 (Ref:2926209)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pederb

And no Jota AM Vantage?

That's only a LMS entry, and it's in GTE-Pro.

AGD · 22 Jul 2011, 07:50 (Ref:2929705)

The London Project/Storholm Racing (some charity concerned with Age – Related Macular Degeneration) are planning on running an FLM at Silverstone and Petit.

http://www.crankandpiston.com/201111...ure-blindness/
http://www.thelondonproject.org/
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-7760.html

KA · 22 Jul 2011, 15:28 (Ref:2929815)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGD

The London Project/Storholm Racing (some charity concerned with Age – Related Macular Degeneration) are planning on running an FLM at Silverstone and Petit.

http://www.crankandpiston.com/201111...ure-blindness/
http://www.thelondonproject.org/
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-7760.html

This isn't the first time we've had teams in ACO racing involved with charities- Embassy's LMP2 carried the name and logos for CLAPA (Cleft Lip & Palate support group-think it's a charity that the team boss supported)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregweb...er/3076385045/

and IIRC the Team Modena GT1 Aston a few years back had links to a charity at one point?

The Storholm Racing name is new to me, but from the E-I article, this seems to be involving AUH Motorsports, who run Radicals in the United Arab Emirates- IIRC there was a suggestion earlier in the year of them having plans to run an FLM in Europe.

I'm guessing that the Humaid Al-Masaood, mentioned on AUH's website, is the same one who's in the #20 Dyson car in the ALMS?
http://www.auhmotorsports.com/

AGD · 22 Jul 2011, 15:38 (Ref:2929821)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA

The Storholm Racing name is new to me, but from the E-I article, this seems to be involving AUH Motorsports, who run Radicals in the United Arab Emirates- IIRC there was a suggestion earlier in the year of them having plans to run an FLM in Europe.

I'm guessing that the Humaid Al-Masaood, mentioned on AUH's website, is the same one who's in the #20 Dyson car in the ALMS?

Yeah, that's him. I guess he co-owns the AUH organization? It seems that Aldous Mitchell is involved with the project as well in some way. According to his profile page on the AUH website, his dream is to compete at Le Mans in the GT3 class. Well, good luck to him on that!

The Badger · 27 Jul 2011, 07:45 (Ref:2931649)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGD

The London Project/Storholm Racing (some charity concerned with Age – Related Macular Degeneration) are planning on running an FLM at Silverstone and Petit

How can a charity sponsor a race team ?

Surly the money that people contribute to a chartiy , they dont expect to see the money used for anything but what its supposed to be used for .

I would be ****ed off about that .

Victor_RO · 27 Jul 2011, 07:48 (Ref:2931650)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

How can a charity sponsor a race team ?

Surly the money that people contribute to a chartiy , they dont expect to see the money used for anything but what its supposed to be used for .

I would be ****ed off about that .

Don't charities have a budget for promotions anyway set aside from the donations and contributions? I'd imagine that a part of that would go towards sponsoring racing teams.

MitchZ06 · 27 Jul 2011, 07:57 (Ref:2931652)

Just a hypothetical...

What if, someone behind the charity decided he/she wants to go racing, has a pile of their own money to fund the effort and wants to use the racing team to advertise the charity?

The Badger · 27 Jul 2011, 10:48 (Ref:2931702)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Don't charities have a budget for promotions anyway set aside from the donations and contributions? I'd imagine that a part of that would go towards sponsoring racing teams.

Possibily a budget ..... but how much does it cost to budget for a FLM car with spares , plus drivers and races away ?

Im all for it , but find it hard to fathom is all .

Im remembering the original band aid , and the money that was raised . Most of it went on getting aid to the destination , and not to the people who needed it .

I knew an IT guy working in London for a charity , his boss (charity boss) would only fly to USA with Concorde , at that time ..... is that charity ?

**joeb** · 27 Jul 2011, 13:14 (Ref:2931757)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Just a hypothetical...

What if, someone behind the charity decided he/she wants to go racing, has a pile of their own money to fund the effort and wants to use the racing team to advertise the charity?

That sounds plausible to me. A big donator pays for the racing in hopes of bringing more attention and money to the charity.

KA · 27 Jul 2011, 14:19 (Ref:2931781)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

How can a charity sponsor a race team ?

Surly the money that people contribute to a chartiy , they dont expect to see the money used for anything but what its supposed to be used for .

I would be ****ed off about that .

I'd guess it works the other way round- the charity doesn't put any money in itself, and the team's bills are paid by either corporate sponsors or a couple of rich guys associated with the team who support the charity involved.

The charity gets some free publicity out of it, and opportunities to do some fundraising events based around the team and car, maybe they get a percentage of any sponsorship the team raises, while the team and any sponsors get some good PR out of it.

If they debut at Silverstone, I wouldn't be surprised to see charity collectors for 'The London Project' much in evidence there...

AGD · 17 Aug 2011, 08:08 (Ref:2942003)

The rest of the 2011 ILMC will be Hope-less: http://www.autohebdo.fr/endurance/il...onne-la-saison

Mal · 2 Sep 2011, 13:18 (Ref:2949877)

I see from Autosport that all P1's must have a 25mm plank to raise the height of the car which is an increase of 5mm in the ride height. This will be applied immediately including for silverstone

This is a result of the FIA investigation into the Pugs accident at Paul Ricard. Pug spokeman says this will have a significant effect on the car.

NelisB · 2 Sep 2011, 15:19 (Ref:2949929)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

I see from Autosport that all P1's must have a 25mm plank to raise the height of the car which is an increase of 5mm in the ride height. This will be applied immediately including for silverstone

This is a result of the FIA investigation into the Pugs accident at Paul Ricard. Pug spokeman says this will have a significant effect on the car.

What kind of effect is this going to have on the cars?

arakis · 2 Sep 2011, 15:21 (Ref:2949930)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NelisB

What kind of effect is this going to have on the cars?

probably less downforce, grip in medium to high speed corners

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