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Well done Nico.
On most days Lewis maybe quicker but as a person he seems a little broken. This year the better man won. |
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Shame for Jenson's last race to go that way, very unfortunate.
Good to see some good manners going on on the podium, but it all felt a little awkward to me. No respect lost for Mr Hamilton. He had the race win in the bag - when it's that close and still feasible you can't blame him for doing what he can to try to save his championship as well. And if racing has to be about going as fast as possible then shouldn't Rosberg have been more aggressive and trying to pass, if he was held up so much? They're all doing what they can to get the best possible result for themselves. Plus if Lewis had sped off into the distance with Nico a second or two behind him there'd have been even less 'racing' at the end than there was. It's nice to see a different champion though, I suppose. |
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as already said by others Lewis reacted in the way we expect a born racer should and full respect to him but this year i am happy Nico won next year we will see two world champions racing and perhaps the Red bulls and Ferrari might be closer
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Yeah, we can see that . It wasn't about stopping someone else winning a championship, it was about winning the championship himself. If you are so altruistic that you would willingly give up a championship without a fight, I take my hat off to you. But with that attitude you'd never win one....... |
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This is what Hamilton radioed on the penultimate lap:
Lap 54/55 Lewis Hamilton: "Right now, I'm losing the world championship so I don't care if I lose this race." And it may have been awkward on the podium, but it is being reported that Hamilton totally ignored Rosberg in pre-podium room, not speaking to him at all. Spoilt brat. |
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What a farce. Vettel effectively protected Rosberg from Verstappen. He screamed passed Ricciardo en Verstappen on the new supersofts, but at the tail of Rosberg he all of a sudden couldn't do anything anymore even if Hamilton was driven two seconds slower than he could (I would've done exactly the same in his situation after such a season).
I wonder if it was a deal between manufacturer Ferrari and (German) manufacturer Mercedes or between Rosberg and Vettel? To me Vettel kept Verstappen from attacking Rosberg and then making no serious effort himself. Actively not interfering with the championship battle is interfering with the championship battle as well. |
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I have a sneaky feeling that if Rosberg had tried to get past that Hamilton, then knowing that any chance of taking the championship would be gone, would have attempted to take him out. He doesn't worship his hero for nothing! |
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His employers were already winning both championships. They couldn't not win them, no matter what happened. 2 DNFs would've still given them a clean championship sweep. Let's not pretend that the whole season was on the line here. Lewis was just trying to win the championship. |
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Tyres going off. Much more likely, I think.
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"Congratulations" to Nico on his maiden championship ... 🏆
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Although I'll concede that this time I was cheering for Hamilton because he was doing a brilliant job with doing the only thing he could to win the championship bar ramming Rosberg off the track. Bit naive of Mercedes to expect him to just bent over. They should've agreed to let them race before the start and not repeatedly interfere with a title fight, as everyone knew exactly what was going on. |
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The Podium.
No, not the personal interaction (lack of). I was thinking of the bloke who gave the trophies to the wrong men. And the total lack of fizz in whatever passes for champagne in Abby Dabby. |
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Congratulations Nico! Well done! Lewis, great driving this season, but sorry it just didn't go your way.
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[QUOTE=Mike Harte;3691431]Richard, I don't think that we will agree about this because the only way that Hamilton could win this championship, taking into consideration the track positions of both of them, was by making sure that Rosberg lost. And by doing that he would have also made his employers lose as well, which is why Paddy Lowe instructed him to pick up his pace. Which he refused to do!]
And quite right, too. It was unwarranted interference by the team in a race for the ultimate prize in F1. They had already won the constructors' title and were assured of the drivers', too, whoever won. They wanted a 1-2, Lewis wanted a 1-4, and he was in the driving seat – literally and metaphorically. Any proper racer would have done the same, period. |
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