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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:07 (Ref:4160853)   #301
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14)Track limits •Please acquaint yourselves with the text of Chapter IV Appendix L, especially concerning driving standards and respect of the track limits.

Anyone known what document you find Chapter IV Appendix L
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:09 (Ref:4160855)   #302
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Absolutely concur that they want/need/deserve competition, but why should the competition be given a "free" leg up?
Because they have the Ferrari badge on their cars But worry not, they'll surely do everything possible in the race not to take advantage of their supreme pace... like in all races before.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:10 (Ref:4160858)   #303
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@TWR May be this: https://www.24h-lemans.com/en/lemans/regulations
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:14 (Ref:4160860)   #304
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Because they have the Ferrari badge on their cars But worry not, they'll surely do everything possible in the race not to take advantage of their supreme pace... like in all races before.
BOP themselves.
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I referenced that above


What's odd is that all documents have a paragraph numbering format, but that uses letters too
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Absolutely concur that they want/need/deserve competition, but why should the competition be given a "free" leg up?
It should not…… But there's always a point to start from, ya no, and there's already different Hypercars PLUS the BoP. Each time Geneva people put their heavy hands on a sport it becomes a show with secret rules.
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Anyone known what document you find Chapter IV Appendix L
There you go:
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I referenced that above. What's odd is that all documents have a paragraph numbering format, but that uses letters too
Odd? C'on! Did you ever tried to HTPed an historic race car? Its something in a man's life!
I hope this wont be the kind of message displayed on the screens of the team responsibles (worse case, drivers!) : 14)Track limits •Please acquaint yourselves with the text of Chapter IV Appendix L, especially concerning driving standards and respect of the track limits
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:22 (Ref:4160865)   #309
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Because they have the Ferrari badge on their cars But worry not, they'll surely do everything possible in the race not to take advantage of their supreme pace... like in all races before.
but that as when Enzo was around, with that 'charming, persuasive personality'...
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:26 (Ref:4160866)   #310
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Wow, they got the #3 Caddy fixed.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:29 (Ref:4160868)   #311
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Wow, they got the #3 Caddy fixed.
NO. They just got it back from the circuit after the fire.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:31 (Ref:4160869)   #312
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Imagine that. #93 Peugeot is stopped by the side of the circuit….
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:36 (Ref:4160872)   #313
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yeah, they're inspecting the damage in the garage.
#93 Peugeot pulled off at Mulsanne hump. This has been an absolute nightmare for them. It's gotta get better...
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No worry they are testing new brake pads. Those Frenchies, still inventive!
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Eduardo is not happy!
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May be it has been stolen? You never know, there are son many pickpockets around! Or may be its in the script: https://www.dakar.com/en/news/2018/1...t-search-28-40
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Eduardo is not happy!
I don't blame him... " Why am I here?.. what am I getting paid for?..."
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:50 (Ref:4160879)   #319
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well, Peugeot did them all a favor by extending the session. Nice work.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 20:56 (Ref:4160880)   #320
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15 extra minutes of practice was added, lets the last coupe of night lap needers get out and hopefully complete the requirement
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 21:21 (Ref:4160887)   #322
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aaaaaaaannnnddddd... we're done.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 21:27 (Ref:4160888)   #323
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Ferrari... is very fast.

But Porsche is very very strong. They did one lap in quali and went 4th. Not much trying... And in LMP1H era they were always better setup for the race. If Ferrari will do a Ferrari, than we got "classic" Porsche vs Toyota I think.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 22:36 (Ref:4160893)   #324
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I think the limited running for Porsche was to hide their ultimate pace... I might be wrong but it is a gut feeling. :P
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I think I saw from Adams charts that Toyota have the best race pace.
Ferrari will likely find the need to do some strategic foot shooting over the space of 24 hours.

First outright pole for 50 years for Ferrari at Le Mans though.
I’m just catching up. Reading through the comments.

I will be updating the charts with all the practice and qualifying running. We’ll see what that shows, but I’m guess that Toyota will still look pretty strong.

It isn’t the recent BoP changes that got Ferrari that pole. Reverse it and it was still pole. They looked like they had pace even at Spa (although not on cold tyres). And tyre wise today they were up to speed straight away!

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