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Old 11 Oct 2006, 08:39 (Ref:1734864)   #51
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T-cars is too expensive, Sax Max and J Ginettas are the way forward. When learning to race you DONT need an expensive car with a spaceframe chassis, t-cars should be targeted as the step up from Sax Max.

I hoping that Sax Max next season is when im back home, i havent seen it yet and i really wan't to. 750mc has the right idea, just look at stock hatch, and sax max is a good continuation from that, i think it will provide more drivers than T-cars ever will.
T-Cars doesn't HAVE to be expensive!
It depends how you do it, who you run with, etc...

it's been a good starting ground for so many drivers,

tom chilton, will bratt, jonny cocker and many more.

am i right in thinking that ryan lewis did t-cars?
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 14:39 (Ref:1735261)   #52
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T-Cars doesn't HAVE to be expensive!
It depends how you do it, who you run with, etc...

it's been a good starting ground for so many drivers,

tom chilton, will bratt, jonny cocker and many more.

am i right in thinking that ryan lewis did t-cars?
Talk about putting one's foot in it! You've just listed 4 names that epitomise the theory of rich kids with average ability!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 14:42 (Ref:1735268)   #53
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wow there has been an aweful lot of slating going on while I have been away ,by the way i had my english teacher check this message and i put it in bold type so people of all ages will be able to read it. I would just like to say ,not to restart the fight, that there will always be talent in motorsport that gets over looked because in the end for those at the very top motor sport is a business. This is a fact of life unfair as it may seem so why try and dicriminate against people because of it. I recognise how lucky I am to be in my position and have so much respect for those who most probably had to work a hell of a lot harder than i did to start going racing however i still think that talent is talent and people shouldn't disregard drivers because money is on there side

I'm sure that you're not serious but, if you really did get your English teacher to check your post, then you need to get a better English teacher!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 16:57 (Ref:1735389)   #54
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Talk about putting one's foot in it! You've just listed 4 names that epitomise the theory of rich kids with average ability!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 17:13 (Ref:1735402)   #55
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T-Cars doesn't HAVE to be expensive!
It depends how you do it, who you run with, etc...
it's been a good starting ground for so many drivers,
tom chilton, will bratt, jonny cocker and many more.
Most entry level motorsport doesn't have to be expensive. The problem is when you have the likes of the 3 you mention throwing money at it like no tomorrow it's very difficult to compete against them without spending equally large sums.
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 18:45 (Ref:1735461)   #56
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Talk about putting one's foot in it! You've just listed 4 names that epitomise the theory of rich kids with average ability!!
ok... maybe those we're a bad 3 to pick, but there has been people who don't have alot of money, are doing well and started in t-cars,

and "rich kids with average ability" is NOT nessessary!!!!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 20:05 (Ref:1735528)   #57
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ok... maybe those we're a bad 3 to pick, but there has been people who don't have alot of money, are doing well and started in t-cars,

Who?

and "rich kids with average ability" is NOT nessessary!!!!!
No, not nessessary (sic) but true!!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 20:45 (Ref:1735574)   #58
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No, not nessessary (sic) but true!!!
its not true at all, we dont have alot of money!!!
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Old 11 Oct 2006, 20:50 (Ref:1735579)   #59
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Blimey! I've just happened on this thread, and can I say welcome to our young guns, and regardless of who your parents are, and what ever championship you may be racing in, there is one thing that is fact.

Motor Racing is expensive, and more addictive than Class A drugs. Ask Vic Lee... oops stop me! (I bet the mods censor that!)

Sponsors help you into the upper echilons of the sport, and getting sponsors is always more of "Who you know" opposed to "What you know". I know this as we're working flat out trying to raise budget to run my existing car, and buy/run another one.

Looking at all of the names in the poll, there isn't one who stands out to me and says I'm the next BTCC Champ, because with guidance, all of them could be.

I feel that narrowing it to BTCC Champ is also unfair, as some of them may never do the BTCC, but may go on to GT's, or single seaters, or both/all three. They may go WTCC and do really well and shine. They may pack up all together before they go much further.

Rather than slate them as Daddy's little rich kids, I'd say that lucky blighters that I'd give my left arm to have been at their age!

As for Sax-Max - it's a great start of the younger drivers that will probably go on to steadily rise up the ranks in tin-tops. It's cheap, and if they get it wrong, they haven't lost much compared to getting it wrong in T-Cars.

Keep it on the island. And remember, Formula Ford... Don't do it today!

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Old 12 Oct 2006, 15:36 (Ref:1736324)   #60
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I'm sure that you're not serious but, if you really did get your English teacher to check your post, then you need to get a better English teacher!!
good banter. I didn't but I got him to check yours and you put your comma in the wrong place, chin up
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 15:38 (Ref:1736326)   #61
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No, not nessessary (sic) but true!!!
AND I am pretty sure 'sic' isn't a word
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 15:42 (Ref:1736332)   #62
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Well my apologies then, but I wasn't impressed with his first post.
you caught me a bit on the angry side that people were having a go at us but through the text speak I hope you saw the point I was trying to make
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1736353)   #63
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AND I am pretty sure 'sic' isn't a word
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sic Sic (=thus, so), invariably bracketed and usually set in italics, is used to indicate that a preceding word or phrase in a quoted passage is reproduced as it appeared in the original passage. Sic at its best is intended to aid readers who might be confused about whether the quoter or the quoted writer is responsible for the spelling or grammatical anomaly.
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 16:19 (Ref:1736360)   #64
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good banter. I didn't but I got him to check yours and you put your comma in the wrong place, chin up

No I didn't.

Incidentally, in your earlier post, I noted 2 mispositioned commas, 13 grammatical and two spelling errors. I didn't look too hard.

I really wouldn't carry on digging, Alex, the hole will get deeper.

Chin up....

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Old 12 Oct 2006, 16:20 (Ref:1736363)   #65
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AND I am pretty sure 'sic' isn't a word
Obviously Latin is no longer on the National Curriculum.
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 16:23 (Ref:1736368)   #66
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Obviously Latin is no longer on the National Curriculum.

...nor English.
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 17:17 (Ref:1736422)   #67
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Hey guys, this isn't a spelling bee. Keep it on topic?
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 17:24 (Ref:1736428)   #68
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Hey guys, this isn't a spelling bee. Keep it on topic?
i was going to say!!!

DSM, who CARES if he made so many mistakes???? alex is blonde (, i cant say much) and 15/16 years old!!!

i think we shud go back to the whole BTCC driver thingy!
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 19:05 (Ref:1736500)   #69
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OK, if you all want a spelling and grammar contest then take it to Parc Ferme otherwise could we get this thread back on topic.
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 19:52 (Ref:1736545)   #70
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Please correct me but weren't about 5 of the T Cars drivers also racing in Sax Max at the end of the season. If so it speaks for itself.

Surely there is no place for T cars next year - the junior championships should be consolidated to give 2 strong series rather than 1 strong (as Sax Maz will be) and 2 moderate
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Old 12 Oct 2006, 20:13 (Ref:1736559)   #71
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Please correct me but weren't about 5 of the T Cars drivers also racing in Sax Max at the end of the season. If so it speaks for itself.

Surely there is no place for T cars next year - the junior championships should be consolidated to give 2 strong series rather than 1 strong (as Sax Maz will be) and 2 moderate
dan brown has always been doing t-cars and saxmax this year and ryan borthwick did one round in saxmax, found it too slow and left... then left t-cars

why should there only be 2 junior championships? does that mean we should only have 2 adult championships?
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dan brown has always been doing t-cars and saxmax this year and ryan borthwick did one round in saxmax
Indeed and there has been some limited cross over between Ginetta Juniors, SAXMAX and T Cars. Likewise for some adult championships, drivers take in occasional races in other categories, so I don't really see why 'under age' categories should be any different.

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why should there only be 2 junior championships? does that mean we should only have 2 adult championships?
With regard to your comment regarding two adult championships, then a case can be made that there is a sufficient number of competitors to sustain a large number of championships (although there are some that could be merged, but that is another debate), but grid numbers suggest that there isn't sufficient demand to support three junior championships that provide a good spectacle.
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OK, if you all want a spelling and grammar contest then take it to Parc Ferme otherwise could we get this thread back on topic.
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by the way no they don't but have you ever met a critic of anything who's opinion is worth more than anyone elses I havn't
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No I didn't.

Incidentally, in your earlier post, I noted 2 mispositioned commas, 13 grammatical and two spelling errors. I didn't look too hard.

I really wouldn't carry on digging, Alex, the hole will get deeper.

Chin up....
thats just sad but quite funny . back on topic we go
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