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Exciting competition = interested viewers = repeat customers = development of fan favorites = increased value and effect of promotions = increased sponsorship investment = better competition |
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They could also throw in a better looking car I mean the ones they run now are so cheap looking and a couple of the proposed cars for 2012 are pretty dull too. The thing they could do is go with the Delta Wing then I think that would finally be it for me Indycar would just be too terrible for me to watch.
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climb thinks the Delta wing cars would have too many (under)steering problems; doesn't like them
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They DO all drive the same car in NASCAR; there is no practical difference with the CoT, but just different brand decals, or whatever they use, slapped/wrapped around the common-template bodies. NASCAR hasn't actually been "stock" car racing in 30 years.
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This is true the cars are all exactly the same on the outside now except for decals. The COT finished off what was left of different auto makers distinct features in the series.
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I should have said if they all drove the same "manufacturer's" car, e.g. if they were all Ford.
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Brand rivalries are great: Ford vs Chevrolet / Holden / Vauxhall (every corner of this planet), Mercedes vs Audi (current DTM), Mitsubishi vs Subaru (WRC some years ago)... But they work better in tin-topped cars, that means production cars or road car lookalikes.
F1 doesn't actually need brands, but teams: Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Lotus. Two of them didn't build road cars in decades, yet they still gathered fandom. So I believe that IndyCar would welcome engine brand rivalries, but even more team rivalries. Penske and Ganassi are there and should allow fiercer rivalry without losing chivalry, for example. |
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F1 teams are "brands" to a certain extent; just look at how they market themselves. Could you envisage a green Ferrari? What also makes F1 so interesting is there are different Constructors involved. There are the Grandees like Ferrari, the Privateers such as Tyrrell or Williams and then you have your hybrids, like Lotus who made a range of high perfomance road cars and McLaren who have gone down a similar route with their McLaren F1.
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Yes you would have a poor business model.... CART/Indycar had more revenue than Nascar before the 'agreement'....and when Players, Kool, etc went those teams struggled for replacements, and overall revenue dropped. Nascar lost Winston but had a strategy-they went for mainstream consumer companies. They won huge support from promotions by those companies. The IRL tried the upcoming .com companies but many of those companies crashed and burned, they didb't put moey into promotion and the IRL didn't really nurtue or assist them. CART didn't have a strategy and gradually lost more and more revenue and subsequent support as there were few really good quality replacements and few that actually invested in the sport. There were otehr factor invoved but teh truth is that the other factors coupled with the loss of revenue hit Open wheel at an critical time. If the tobacco 'ban' hadn't happened could they have weathered the storm and handled the other factors.....And the probable answer is yes. |
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Ugly, but I do: 599 HY-KERS.
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Yes, guys, I can envisage a green Ferrari. And actually, I thought the Olive Garden 550 that ran GTS in the ALMS looked pretty good.
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