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Old 19 Apr 2004, 01:43 (Ref:943721)   #1
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Ten-Tenths Fantasy Champ Car Grid - LONG BEACH

STANDINGS IN LONG BEACH

1. Team Photogenic 66
2. Paulzinho’s School of Samba 65
= Wrexxx Racin 65
= Firefox Racing 65
= Pinnacle Motorsport 65
= Speedworx Racing 65
3. Pocketsports Racing 64
= SNAFU Racing 64
= Team CrashandBang 64
= Team Out of the Sun 64
= Williams Racing Ltd. 64
4. Chequered Flag Racing 63
= Team Cars Not Trams 63
5. ILP Racing 62
6. Emerald City Racing 61
7. Bulldog Racing International 60
= Maple City Racing 60
= GM99 Motorsports 60
= Hesketh Racing 60
= Kreme Racing 60
8. Team Viperblues 59
= Underwood Andretti Racing 59
9. Puerto Rico Racing 58
= Team Prodrive 58
10. Strange Grand Prix 57
= TCH Grand Prix Limited 57
12. Risky Business Racing 56
= Team Smersh 56
13. Doom & Gloom Racing 54
= Producto de Mexico 54
14. Team Prodrive 52
15. Hewman-Naas Jellyfish DanceParty Racing 51
= Lucky Strike BAR Demenech Racing 51
= Omega Motorsports 51
= RS Team Motorsports 50
16. AppleCART Competition 50
17. Team Phoenix MG 47
= Team Super Owls 47
= Team vmkFX 47
18. Zander/Waxer Racing 46
19. American Motorsport Group 45
20. Team Elizabeth 44
21. Crooks Motorsport 43
22. Boehm American 42
23. Andrew Denman Racing 38
= Swedish American Racing 38
= Team GoFaster 38
= Thunder Racing 38
24. Charlie’s Angels Racing 37
= No Schumachers 37
25. Team French Fries 36
26. DBR International 35
27. Yummy Canadian Racing 34
28. Oddball Racing 32
29. Interbrew Racing 30
= Low Moral Fibre Racing 30
= Spiering Racing 30
= Team Mission Interception 30
30. Rocket Racing 29
31. Apex Racing 27
= SRl Racing 27
32. Pocketsports Racing 23
= Team CCP 23
33. A.G. Giocca Racing 21
34. Mexican Spirit Team Corkholio 20
35. Team Go Team 14
36. The Unique and Special Snowflakes 13

If you think your numbers are wrong or if your team is not shown, please let me know. This is a piece of work and no mistake!
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 02:05 (Ref:943729)   #2
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I'm not sure, but CCP Racing/Team Effort (note the new name please) with drivers Vasser, Jourdain & Wilson would have 30 points according to the Champ Car web page. Did we lose points for Vasser's DNF or did I read the rules wrong?
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 03:01 (Ref:943744)   #3
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Hey Liz...you forgot to mention who the first guy out was. Is it Marques(Marqueee...damn Jenikns) or do Vasser,Sperafico and Marques count as first ones out of the race?
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 04:08 (Ref:943759)   #4
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According to my math, Paul Tracy (my first driver) recieved 32 points and Bruno Junqueira (my second driver) recieved 29 points, totalling 61 points. Paul recieved 2 hard charger points, bringing my total up to 63, and Bruno's loss in a position dropped me down to 62. Now if we count Jimmy Vasser's 5 points (I'm not sure if they count due to his DNF) I should be up to 67 points. According to the rules, I lose no "Hard Charger" points due to JV's retirement, and if I did, that would bring my down to 61. So what I'm saying is, I think you're wrong.

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Old 19 Apr 2004, 04:35 (Ref:943772)   #5
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I could have misread the rules as well, but I count 29 for Junqeira + 27 for Bourdais as 56, less 4 points from Tag who lost four positions in the race, bringing it down to 52...
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 06:22 (Ref:943791)   #6
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(it's funny to see that me and stranger, both from holland, choose exactly the same team).

I would say I have more points
Tracy = 32 + 2 charger points = 34
Bourdais 27 - 1 charger point = 26
RHR lost a position -1
Total = 59

But I have also 2 cars on the podium, do I have then 5 bonus points, or does that only count when RHR also finished on the podium??? I would say 59+5=64

But maybe i'm totaly wrong
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 14:53 (Ref:944228)   #7
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I'm having trouble with your Math too Liz, If you ave some clarification as to how you calculate dpoints i would appreciate it

Paul Tracy 32 pts + 2 HC pts = 34pts
Bruno Junqueira 29pts -1 HC pt = 28pts
Alex Tagliani 0pts - 4 HC pts = -4pts
Total pts for Team Smersh = 58 pts, not 56 as awarded
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 14:57 (Ref:944240)   #8
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Polar Bear Express Racing does not seem to be listed or am i not looking close enough? We had enough sponsorship to run the whole year! Honest!

I would have thought my team would have been top ten. (pt,seabass,tags)
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:43 (Ref:944457)   #9
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Liz firstly thank you for being quick, must be great fun with so many teams to sort out! Three requests/questions, one of which has been mentioned.

1) Who was first out? According to cart.com its Marques:

16 10 12 J. Vasser Contact
17 15 14 A. Sperafico Contact
18 0 19 T. Marques Contact


2) Can you list what driver got what points thus making it easier to double check though I'm sure your spot on :-) if not possible to copy/paste easily maybe a downloadable link if craig is so kinda as to let you upload a non-picture.

3) I put Geoff Boss then requested, after friday with Justin being confirmed, that Tarso Marques be my third driver so does that count or not?

Thank you again!
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 00:03 (Ref:944855)   #10
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Now I'm getting a headache.

Here are the points I calculated for the drivers (before the other points were added):

Allmendinger 5
Tagliani 11
Junqueira 27
Vasser -1
Wilson 24
Jourdain 12
Haberfeld 18
Dominguez 21
Phillipe 11
Servia 0
Carpentier 26
Tracy 33
Gonzales 10
Lavin 10
Hunter-Reay 16
Bourdais 24
Marques 0

Bourdais and Junqueira each got one point for pole; Vasser at the time I did the calculations was shown as first man out.

I didn't do the points for fastest lap or anything else, only pole position.

I am not a mathematician so if anybody can demonstrate that I added up wrong, I will happily change your score and try to do better next time.
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 00:32 (Ref:944878)   #11
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Hi Liz,
It's me Dov......I'm housesitting my dads place and I don't remember what my old password is, so I decided to register under another name while I'm staying here. My first 2 drivers finished on the podium....Bourdais (3rd) and Tracy (1st)....shouldn't I have more points then 37? My team is Charlie's Angels Racing.....I believe I lost a point because my third driver RHR lost one spot from where he started, but I still think I should have more points then 37!?

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Old 20 Apr 2004, 01:40 (Ref:944931)   #12
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Sorry Liz but...

Here's how I see it. It will basically hold true for Dov as are teams are very similar (although Dov did his best to confuse you by subbing Tracy for Jordain somewhere in mid-stream)

SNAFU Racing is shown with 64 points and should be 65 as follows:

Tracy 32 + Bourdais 27 = 59 + 5 for both on the podium = 64 + 1 for Bourdais second day pole = 65

Charlie's Angels then lose 1 for RHR = 64 and - ??? for using an assumed name

...and you volunteered for this abuse :confused:

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Old 20 Apr 2004, 01:46 (Ref:944937)   #13
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OK, I will change those and thank you for the help! I'll get it together for the next race.

Incidentally, Polar Bear Express you have 54 points.
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 01:47 (Ref:944939)   #14
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I know I'm being a pain but with your numbers for CCP/Team Effort (Vasser/Jourdain/Wilson - -1/12/24, assuming Vasser was first out) I get 35 as a total. You have CCP/Team Effort at 23. Using CARTs totals, I get 30 if I only include the top two drivers.
I am confused.
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 01:57 (Ref:944943)   #15
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Bourdais didn't have 27 points. He came in 3rd which is 25, and gained a point for pole but lost it for losing a position on the grid. So he has 25.

Charlies Angels Racing is definitely wrong though; they had 60 pilot points. But no points for all on the podium or top 5 -- Jourdain was neither one.
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 02:06 (Ref:944947)   #16
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Team CCP/Team Effort has 35 points. I gave Jourdain, Haberfeld's points and Wilson only his Hard Charger points! AAUGH!

I will check all my figures and put up a revised listing tomorrow night.
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ONE RACE = ONE WIN and TWO PODIUMS!

Maple City Racing, in co-operation with sponsors ZigZag and Budweiser, held what will go down in history as "The Ultimate Victory Party" after our sensational showing at LB.

(Tied for) 2 - Wrexxx Racin - 65
(Tied for) 16
(or 7) Maple City Racing - 60

MC Racing has 61 points, and there's no way that Wrex is gonna beat us this year.

Sorry to further bug you, Liz...
32 - Paul Tracy
27 - Sebastien Bourdais
+2 - Michel Jourdain, Jr.

Wrex cheated.
I'll prove it before the end of the season.

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Old 20 Apr 2004, 04:13 (Ref:944971)   #18
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Charlies Angels Racing is definitely wrong though; they had 60 pilot points. But no points for all on the podium or top 5 -- Jourdain was neither one.
My original drivers were Sebastien Bourdais and Michel Jourdain Jr., but long before April the 10th I changed my team......I dropped Jourdain Jr., so my #1 driver was still Bourdais, I added Paul Tracy as my #2 driver and RHR as my #3 driver......I just wanted to clarify that!

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ONE RACE = ONE WIN and TWO PODIUMS!

Maple City Racing, in co-operation with sponsors ZigZag and Budweiser, held what will go down in history as "The Ultimate Victory Party" after our sensational showing at LB.

(Tied for) 2 - Wrexxx Racin - 65
(Tied for) 16
(or 7) Maple City Racing - 60

MC Racing has 61 points, and there's no way that Wrex is gonna beat us this year.

Sorry to further bug you, Liz...
32 - Paul Tracy
27 - Sebastien Bourdais
+2 - Michel Jourdain, Jr.

Wrex cheated.
I'll prove it before the end of the season.
Macdaddy, you have 'Wrex' issues bud

What bugs you the most, my entry this season, my victory last season, or the top 3 finish every year this competition has been run?



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